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What the hell are two kids doing in a court room? Its not going to make anything better and theres nothing in the legal system which makes 10 year old kids legally responsible for their actions.



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Squilliam said:

What the hell are two kids doing in a court room? Its not going to make anything better and theres nothing in the legal system which makes 10 year old kids legally responsible for their actions.

Sadly, but if they want to act like adults they should be punished like adults.



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KingFate said:
Squilliam said:

What the hell are two kids doing in a court room? Its not going to make anything better and theres nothing in the legal system which makes 10 year old kids legally responsible for their actions.

Sadly, but if they want to act like adults they should be punished like adults.

No.

Noone can argue successfully that 10 year old boys are fully aware of the consequences of their actions. Theres nothing to gain from punishing these kids. At this point you can't argue that its to prevent it from happening again, its not going to make the girls life any better and its very doubtful that they will even be able to get a conviction due to diminished legal responsibility. I.E. They aren't expected to know any better.

 

 



Tease.

Pumping more money into the education system wont help. Better parenting would. The education system of the UK is funded well enough, some *looks at SamuelRSmith* would even say it's massively over funded, the problem often lies in their homelife. Parents don't care, they don't see it as a priority to teach their children about sex... Some don't even feed their children correctly (chicken nuggets and chips for every meal).

In fact, I see more funding for education as pretty low on the priorities of fixes for these kinds of social problems.



Squilliam said:
KingFate said:
Squilliam said:

What the hell are two kids doing in a court room? Its not going to make anything better and theres nothing in the legal system which makes 10 year old kids legally responsible for their actions.

Sadly, but if they want to act like adults they should be punished like adults.

No.

Noone can argue successfully that 10 year old boys are fully aware of the consequences of their actions. Theres nothing to gain from punishing these kids. At this point you can't argue that its to prevent it from happening again, its not going to make the girls life any better and its very doubtful that they will even be able to get a conviction due to diminished legal responsibility. I.E. They aren't expected to know any better.

 

 

Of course they weren't fully aware of the consequences (and who is, really?) but they certainly knew they were doing something very wrong.

It's very important to punish them hard.



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Slimebeast said:
Squilliam said:

No.

Noone can argue successfully that 10 year old boys are fully aware of the consequences of their actions. Theres nothing to gain from punishing these kids. At this point you can't argue that its to prevent it from happening again, its not going to make the girls life any better and its very doubtful that they will even be able to get a conviction due to diminished legal responsibility. I.E. They aren't expected to know any better.

Of course they weren't fully aware of the consequences (and who is, really?) but they certainly knew they were doing something very wrong.

It's very important to punish them hard.

How do you know that they knew they were doing something wrong? Even if they knew it was wrong they still have greatly diminished responsibility due to their age. By attempting to punish the boys any lessons or understanding about why this happened are lost in a legal process. Its impossible to truely know why it happened because they will be told by lawyers to deny everything so we will probably never understand why this rape happened in the first place.

Further still I dislike this because if it can be argued that a 10 year old can rape then im certain its going to be used by pedophiles to justify that 10 year olds can give consent.



Tease.

Squilliam said:
Slimebeast said:
Squilliam said:

No.

Noone can argue successfully that 10 year old boys are fully aware of the consequences of their actions. Theres nothing to gain from punishing these kids. At this point you can't argue that its to prevent it from happening again, its not going to make the girls life any better and its very doubtful that they will even be able to get a conviction due to diminished legal responsibility. I.E. They aren't expected to know any better.

Of course they weren't fully aware of the consequences (and who is, really?) but they certainly knew they were doing something very wrong.

It's very important to punish them hard.

How do you know that they knew they were doing something wrong? Even if they knew it was wrong they still have greatly diminished responsibility due to their age. By attempting to punish the boys any lessons or understanding about why this happened are lost in a legal process. Its impossible to truely know why it happened because they will be told by lawyers to deny everything so we will probably never understand why this rape happened in the first place.

Further still I dislike this because if it can be argued that a 10 year old can rape then im certain its going to be used by pedophiles to justify that 10 year olds can give consent.

I assume they knew it was wrong, unless they were retards. Greatly diminished responsibility yes, certainly, but that's not the same as zero responsibilty.

U raise good points about a legal process. I can agree it shouldnt be brought into a court room. Kids can't handle emotions like that in relation to defending yourslef in a legal matter etc.  It should be handled differently, by authorities and methods that are suited for children.

Who cares what pedophiles are gonna argue. I know for certain that a 10 year old has morals and understands that it's wrong to violate another person physically.



Squilliam said:

What the hell are two kids doing in a court room? Its not going to make anything better and theres nothing in the legal system which makes 10 year old kids legally responsible for their actions.

Actually, in the UK you are criminally respoonsible for your actions when you are 10.



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KingFate said:
Chairman-Mao said:
Mr Puggsly said:
Chairman-Mao said:
1. I don't believe it. No way 10 year olds would be capable of this. They might have assaulted her or something but I doubt it was rape.

2. They're 10 years old, the blame should be mostly on the parents. How could you let your kids do something like that (if its true).

3. I doubt those 10 year olds had even hit puberty yet so how could they possibly rape someone.

1. Like I said, kids are beating off and watching porn at 10. They are also stronger than girls. They can definitely commit rape.

2. How do you explain to your kids not to rape little girls? Sometimes you just have to accept some kids and adults are rotten and don't belong in our society.

3. "Usually, puberty starts between ages 8 and 13 in girls and ages 10 and 15 in boys." - http://kidshealth.org/kid/grow/body_stuff/puberty.html

You don't need to hit puberty to get an erection either.

1. I don't even think I knew what sex was when I was 10. Granted times have changed in the past 8-9 years (since I was 10) but I find it hard to believe 10 yr olds are beating off, watching porn, etc.

2. I meant teaching boys to respect women, not to not commit rape. My dad has always told me to respect women and other important lessons like that. I'll admit I was born into a good family and both my parents were always there for me to teach me these things; and not all children have parents that are there for them...but still at that age a lot of blame has to be on the parents. And I agree many humans (adult and child) are rotten and can't be fixed.

3. I didn't realize it could start as early as 10. I would have guessed around 12 is when it starts. I'll give you that point.

You don't need a penis to rape someone though.

.....I guess that's technically true.....weird thing to say though.....



I blame video games !

Seriously though...this is very hard to believe...