KylieDog said:
I think listing ports of last gen games in defence of the Wii library shows a weakness more than strength, especially when some of those ports offer no additional content. |
OP says ports still count for both consoles, here, so one cannot count them solely for the Gamecube and not for the Wii; at best, they cancel each other out in a list war.
KylieDog said:
I think listing ports of last gen games in defence of the Wii library shows a weakness more than strength, especially when some of those ports offer no additional content. |
Uh, but I also listed ports for GC with no additional content (RE2/3/CV, CVS2) and a remake (Remake)? If you're talking purely original releases only, you've got MH3, TVC, Z&W & MM9/10 versus RE0/4, VJ1/2/RHR, PN03 K7 & MMNT. It's closer, but the Wii lineup still wins out imo, and it still has more coming (like Basara 3).
Gamecube at the moment (griffinA) forgot about Ikaruga,Twin Snakes,Satrfox Adventures,Super Monkey Ball 2, Melee, Eternal Darkness, F-zero GX....
But at the and the end I think the wii could probably be the best.
You played a First Person Adventure game better than Metroid Prime? Where?
"Metroid Prime being released on Wii is not as amazing, its an ~8 year old game and its been bettered since."
You played an FPA better then Metroid Prime? Where?
I've never really bought that point of view. If the game is on the system it should count. It doesn't matter how big the impact was at the time, it's the same damn game!
So if we were doing a list for the PS2 should the RE4 port not count? Because RE4 on gamecube was "amazing for it's time" when it was first released and when it was ported for PS2 it didn't have quite a large impact.
"Pier was a chef, a gifted and respected chef who made millions selling his dishes to the residents of New York City and Boston, he even had a famous jingle playing in those cities that everyone knew by heart. He also had a restaurant in Los Angeles, but not expecting LA to have such a massive population he only used his name on that restaurant and left it to his least capable and cheapest chefs. While his New York restaurant sold kobe beef for $100 and his Boston restaurant sold lobster for $50, his LA restaurant sold cheap hotdogs for $30. Initially these hot dogs sold fairly well because residents of los angeles were starving for good food and hoped that the famous name would denote a high quality, but most were disappointed with what they ate. Seeing the success of his cheap hot dogs in LA, Pier thought "why bother giving Los Angeles quality meats when I can oversell them on cheap hotdogs forever, and since I don't care about the product anyways, why bother advertising them? So Pier continued to only sell cheap hotdogs in LA and was surprised to see that they no longer sold. Pier's conclusion? Residents of Los Angeles don't like food."
"The so-called "hardcore" gamer is a marketing brainwashed, innovation shunting, self-righteous idiot who pays videogame makers far too much money than what is delivered."
| KylieDog said: Are you suggesting MP1 is better than MP3? You are welcome to your opinion, though it will not change mine. |
I don't think I follow!
It almost sounds like you're saying that Metroid Prime 3 is a better game than Metroid Prime, and yet the fact of its acknowledged superiority doesn't meean anything because it's not as good "for its time", in spite of the fact that it would still be the best FPA in the genre right now assuming that it beat Metroid Prime! It almost soundsl ike you're assigning som kind of chronological gradient by which you allow oldr games to hold more weight while being less good simply because you had a narrower set of experiences at the time! It almost sounds like you're saying htat even if the Wii games are better, the Wii games still might not be better because worse games were better at the time (????)!
But that can't be what you are saying in seriousness, so I do not follow.
Wii , and trust me it is by far, i dont think metacritics means anything in this case , cuz on the gamecube era the "Oh 9 ...no its a 7 its on a the nintendo platform" factor was smalle...
Also i can play any GG game at my Wii ^^
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| KylieDog said: I think for there individual times (when released) MP3 was better than MP1. As I said in a previous post "I'm comparing libraries for when games released."
Aside from that if you don't give older games more weight for their time may as well call the NES, SNES, Mega Drive, N64 and PS1 and so forth crap systems since 95% of games released on them are terrible by todays standards. |
It is good to know that my misunderstanding was laid to re-NO WAIT AAAAAAAAAAAAAGH
Truly good games do no age that poorly; Super Mario Bros. is as good a game now as it was 25 years ago.
KylieDog said:
In your opinion, but if Nintendo put it on disc and released it for Wii at £40/$60 do you think it would review well? If it is still as good it gets at least a 9/10 right? |
It depends on whether or not yu see content as a valid value proposal, and hether or not content is necessarily tied into presentation, and whether or not content had anything to do with what's come before.
Let's rephrase, shall we?
In order to make an identical value proposition, we have to assume that up to now Super Mario Bros. never existed, and that as a result the platforming genre as we know it also never existed, probably kept more to someting like Pitfall until the jump to 3-D and thereafter more or less forgotten.
Would Super Mario Bros. still review in a very high range if it released today for the first time? Certainly. The game's mechanics and level design are still impeccable.
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