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America: Homophobia & Racism

Black people 9 10.23%
 
Gay people 63 71.59%
 
Equal 4 4.55%
 
Other 12 13.64%
 
Total:88
dsister44 said:
O-D-C said:
dsister44 said:
Other: Canadians

What about black gay Canadians....

Now why would I hate on someone who is gay or black? They can't control that.... Unlike being Canadian *looks at Khuutra* >.>

The question is 

Can a gay man run for president?

Can a black man run for president?

Can a Canadian run for president?

Who here is really being discriminated against?

Your logic is unarguable.



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The_vagabond7 said:
Gay people obviously. The US is a long long way away from ever giving a gay guy a chance at the presidency. Nigger is more of a comedic word than an insult in modern society, where as gay and queer are still considered insults. People would be horrified if you called someone a nigger in a non ironic way, but you can easily get away with something some one is a queer or something is gay. Gay people don't even have equal rights in the US. It is not socially acceptable to discriminate against black people, it's still socially acceptable to say you think being gay is wrong and all gay people should just be straight. It's changing though, which is good.

Eh, I think a Gay guy could be president.

It's just not very likely statistically considering how much of a minority they are.

I think more Republicans and Democrats would rather vote for a gay person then a member of the opposite party.



Kasz216 said:
The_vagabond7 said:
Gay people obviously. The US is a long long way away from ever giving a gay guy a chance at the presidency. Nigger is more of a comedic word than an insult in modern society, where as gay and queer are still considered insults. People would be horrified if you called someone a nigger in a non ironic way, but you can easily get away with something some one is a queer or something is gay. Gay people don't even have equal rights in the US. It is not socially acceptable to discriminate against black people, it's still socially acceptable to say you think being gay is wrong and all gay people should just be straight. It's changing though, which is good.

Eh, I think a Gay guy could be president.

It's just not very likely statistically considering how much of a minority they are.

I think more Republicans and Democrats would rather vote for a gay person then a member of the opposite party.

What are the odds that between a gay republican candidate and any other republican candidate in existence, the republicans would pick the gay guy to run for president? Neither party would put forth an openly gay candidate to run, they wouldn't want to take the risk. I mean we can't even get gay civil unions in most of the US, what are the odds we'd have a first husband in the whitehouse with his husband the president?



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Kasz216 said:

Additionally, while the US is more homophobic then most other countries (to my knowledge haven't looked at numbers)... we are actually LESS racist then most countries by the numbers.

It just occasionally appears differently due to the nature of our freedom of speech and our belief that stricter hate crime laws would infringe on it.

So I could see how this would appear to be different to an outsider.

I'd say we're less racist because we're a giant melting pot. In no other country will you find such a mix of nationalities and races.  Not only are we more used to being around people of other races/cultures, but you have guys like me that are a mix of 7+ nationalities, thus we have a hard judging people based on where they come from.

Though people from Texas generally suck.  :P

OT: Gay people get the far shorter end of the stick.



Well, it is harder for a Black guy to get into Hollywood than a homosexual person that is....anything else LOL
Only exception here. Homophobia is more prevalent, but racism is still around too.



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The_vagabond7 said:
Kasz216 said:
The_vagabond7 said:
Gay people obviously. The US is a long long way away from ever giving a gay guy a chance at the presidency. Nigger is more of a comedic word than an insult in modern society, where as gay and queer are still considered insults. People would be horrified if you called someone a nigger in a non ironic way, but you can easily get away with something some one is a queer or something is gay. Gay people don't even have equal rights in the US. It is not socially acceptable to discriminate against black people, it's still socially acceptable to say you think being gay is wrong and all gay people should just be straight. It's changing though, which is good.

Eh, I think a Gay guy could be president.

It's just not very likely statistically considering how much of a minority they are.

I think more Republicans and Democrats would rather vote for a gay person then a member of the opposite party.

What are the odds that between a gay republican candidate and any other republican candidate in existence, the republicans would pick the gay guy to run for president? Neither party would put forth an openly gay candidate to run, they wouldn't want to take the risk. I mean we can't even get gay civil unions in most of the US, what are the odds we'd have a first husband in the whitehouse with his husband the president?

People would of said the same thing about a Black Candidate.  Hell, they did.  Not too long ago it was thought the Republicans wouldn't run a woman, now Sarah Palin is out there as a possibility.

It's just a matter of when the Christian Right part of the party gets moved down a bit.

 

As for the Democrats... I think they would... they've been running the risk lately of the Homosexual lobby up and revolting.  They could honestly form an unlikely alliance with those Tea Party guys... they are much less racist and homophobic then people try and make them out to be.  They actually tend to have a decent amount of Democrats already.


You should of seen the Scene in California a couple weeks ago.  Obama was talking, Gay protestors started complainging and protesting at Obama... with the Pro-Obama crowd shouting them down with "Yes we can!".


The Democrats are losing the gays... the only reason they haven't fully lost them is there is nowhere to go... it's the same with the Black vote even though Obama is president.

It's not inconceivable that they are forced to run a gay candidate soon to avoid losing them.



Rainbird said:
I was at the democratic election party 2008 in Texas when Obama was elected. From that alone, gay people

Im intrigued.....how was that experience?

 



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makingmusic476 said:
Kasz216 said:

Additionally, while the US is more homophobic then most other countries (to my knowledge haven't looked at numbers)... we are actually LESS racist then most countries by the numbers.

It just occasionally appears differently due to the nature of our freedom of speech and our belief that stricter hate crime laws would infringe on it.

So I could see how this would appear to be different to an outsider.

I'd say we're less racist because we're a giant melting pot. In no other country will you find such a mix of nationalities and races.  Not only are we more used to being around people of other races/cultures, but you have guys like me that are a mix of 7+ nationalities, thus we have a hard judging people based on where they come from.

Though people from Texas generally suck.  :P

OT: Gay people get the far shorter end of the stick.

Hey I'm also a mix of like 7+ nationalities

It's just

It's just that most of them are honkies



Khuutra said:
makingmusic476 said:
Kasz216 said:

Additionally, while the US is more homophobic then most other countries (to my knowledge haven't looked at numbers)... we are actually LESS racist then most countries by the numbers.

It just occasionally appears differently due to the nature of our freedom of speech and our belief that stricter hate crime laws would infringe on it.

So I could see how this would appear to be different to an outsider.

I'd say we're less racist because we're a giant melting pot. In no other country will you find such a mix of nationalities and races.  Not only are we more used to being around people of other races/cultures, but you have guys like me that are a mix of 7+ nationalities, thus we have a hard judging people based on where they come from.

Though people from Texas generally suck.  :P

OT: Gay people get the far shorter end of the stick.

Hey I'm also a mix of like 7+ nationalities

It's just

It's just that most of them are honkies

Uh... what's a honky?  0_o



makingmusic476 said:
Khuutra said:

Hey I'm also a mix of like 7+ nationalities

It's just

It's just that most of them are honkies

Uh... what's a honky?  0_o

...

...You cannot be serious