Severance said:
thats what the OP is saying. |
I think there is a difference between boosting sales a little and SW sales being much more relevant today. I'm saying it wouldn't make much of a difference, while the OP says that the PS2 would be much more alive and kicking today.
thelifatree said:
The problem with that is most PS2 software is sold used now. Now maybe, it would have sold more new copies (which is what matters to sony) but, there's no way to say either way. |
Well there would be a bigger demand for PS2 software in general if the PS3 had BC.
All PS2 software would be selling better, used and new. Also, Sony would have been able to sell PS2 games on PSN.
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First buying a ps2 cost you 99 dollars ...
Second it's not dead ... at least me my mates still have fun with it before going out :D
The backwards compatibility in the PS3 is crap. I tried playing the original Tomb Raider and the game freezes when you select to start! So I cleaned the disc and guess what...same problem. I checked Sony's website and they claim that the problem is on their side!:
Tomb Raider
Publisher: Eidos Product No: SLUS-00152
Description: The following conditions have been resolved on PS3 System Software Version 2.60: When the title is left inactive for approximately 15 seconds on the Main menu, the title hangs.
I have System Software 3.30 and the game still doesn't work, what the heck! It's BS!
And then I tried playing Jak and Daxter: The Precursor Legacy...loads up fine, I teleport to Geyser Rock...looking good so far, then I pick up a Precursor Orb...and the game lags like no tomarrow.
What the heck!?! I can break chests, collect Power Cells, and Scout Flies but, if I even touch an orb and there's alot of motion in the background the game refuses to play normally. Once again I check with Sony and yup, they know they screwed up big time:
Jak & Daxter: The Precursor Legacy
Publisher: Sony Computer Entertainment Product No: SCUS-97124
Description: At a specific point during gameplay, the title performs at a significantly slower than normal performance speed.
Here's a video of the problem
And they don't even lie about having a solution either.
I can go on and on but the point is, the support for fixing the broken BC is completely intolerable.
There's my 2 cents. I believe support for the PS2 would of been much better if Sony had done a better job of BC.
Mr Puggsly said:
Well there would be a bigger demand for PS2 software in general if the PS3 had BC. All PS2 software would be selling better, used and new. Also, Sony would have been able to sell PS2 games on PSN. |
I will agree, about the selling software old PS2 software on PSN, Because if it had backwards compatibility it would be like the Psone games FF7,8,9, And MGS which I bought. Because now they have to actually port the game to ps3 which is much more costly. Which might have in turn meant more profits for them against the cost of including BC
But, Like I mean, they can't keep the PS2 alive forever. There are still tons of developers that can make software to the PS2 for the millions of people that still use it. Like I guess it's fine that you think Sony Killed PS2, but it was intentional plus age helped as well.
| Quo said: The backwards compatibility in the PS3 is crap. I tried playing the original Tomb Raider and the game freezes when you select to start! So I cleaned the disc and guess what...same problem. I checked Sony's website and they claim that the problem is on their side!: Tomb Raider I have System Software 3.30 and the game still doesn't work, what the heck! It's BS! And then I tried playing Jak and Daxter: The Precursor Legacy...loads up fine, I teleport to Geyser Rock...looking good so far, then I pick up a Precursor Orb...and the game lags like no tomarrow. What the heck!?! I can break chests, collect Power Cells, and Scout Flies but, if I even touch an orb and there's alot of motion in the background the game refuses to play normally. Once again I check with Sony and yup, they know they screwed up big time: Jak & Daxter: The Precursor Legacy Here's a video of the problem And they don't even lie about having a solution either. I can go on and on but the point is, the support for fixing the broken BC is completely intolerable. There's my 2 cents. I believe support for the PS2 would of been much better if Sony had done a better job of BC. |
Did you have a software BC PS3 or a hardware BC PS3 (Which was first) I think this was the case (or i'm dreaming) As obviously the software one had issues
thelifatree said:
I will agree, about the selling software old PS2 software on PSN, Because if it had backwards compatibility it would be like the Psone games FF7,8,9, And MGS which I bought. Because now they have to actually port the game to ps3 which is much more costly. Which might have in turn meant more profits for them against the cost of including BC But, Like I mean, they can't keep the PS2 alive forever. There are still tons of developers that can make software to the PS2 for the millions of people that still use it. Like I guess it's fine that you think Sony Killed PS2, but it was intentional plus age helped as well. |
The reason why it's kept alive is because the profit margins from the hardware are too good to give up for now. If the PS3 manages to get a big profit margin, they might put BC back in, as they can make people buy PS3's then without fearing financial backlash. On the other hand, if people just played their PS2 games on the PS3, it would also mean they'd not be buying and playing PS3 games.
IF they do bring back PS2 compatibility, it'll be in coordination with a PSN-boost, as that'll create heaps of cash.
| Quo said: The backwards compatibility in the PS3 is crap. I tried playing the original Tomb Raider and the game freezes when you select to start! So I cleaned the disc and guess what...same problem. I checked Sony's website and they claim that the problem is on their side!: Tomb Raider I have System Software 3.30 and the game still doesn't work, what the heck! It's BS! And then I tried playing Jak and Daxter: The Precursor Legacy...loads up fine, I teleport to Geyser Rock...looking good so far, then I pick up a Precursor Orb...and the game lags like no tomarrow. What the heck!?! I can break chests, collect Power Cells, and Scout Flies but, if I even touch an orb and there's alot of motion in the background the game refuses to play normally. Once again I check with Sony and yup, they know they screwed up big time: Jak & Daxter: The Precursor Legacy Here's a video of the problem And they don't even lie about having a solution either. I can go on and on but the point is, the support for fixing the broken BC is completely intolerable. There's my 2 cents. I believe support for the PS2 would of been much better if Sony had done a better job of BC. |
Well the BC for PS1 games is software emulation. So its not surprising to hear there are problems.
I believe the original PS3s did BC through hardware. Later models used software emulation and compatibility was significantly worse.
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Mr Puggsly said:
Well the BC for PS1 games is software emulation. So its not surprising to hear there are problems. I believe the original PS3s did BC through hardware. Later models used software emulation and compatibility was significantly worse. |
Also, I know this is a bit OT I'm sorry, But I'm pretty sure the PSN download games are slightly ported as not a direct copy and paste. As atleast in my PS3 the FF8 psone disc, battle swirl is all screwed up, and on my FF8 PSN it works like it originally did, atleast for me.
BC has nothing to do with PS2's software sales.
compare it to other 10+ year old consoles without BC?, how are DC or xbox doing right now in term of software sales??
Compare to other 10+ year old consoles WITH BC? How are Gamecube or GBA doing in term of software sales?
the fact is, it's 10+ years old, are you serious??
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