| jonop said: I think David Milliband will probably be the labour leader next. The other people are too unpopular. |
he would be the bookies favourite i'd say
UK General Election, Election Day and Results Thread | |||
| New Labour - Gordon Brown | 9 | 17.65% | |
| Conservatives - David Cameron | 15 | 29.41% | |
| Liberal Democrats - Nick Clegg | 21 | 41.18% | |
| UKIP - Lord Pearson | 3 | 5.88% | |
| Green Party - Caroline Lucas | 0 | 0% | |
| Others (National Parties,... | 3 | 5.88% | |
| Total: | 51 | ||
| jonop said: I think David Milliband will probably be the labour leader next. The other people are too unpopular. |
he would be the bookies favourite i'd say
Typical wishy washy Lib Dems can't make their minds up. Will Clegg choose power over credibility afterall?
Soon we'll have the marxist JellyBean Brothers fighting for Gordon's job. David Jellybean as PM? This week just gets weirder and weirder.
Somebody call an a election.
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zuvuyeay said:
how do sweden do things |
Yeah we got PR in Sweden. But theres a 4% limit. A party has has to get at least 4% of the popular vote to get into parliament. But between all the parties who do get into parliament the popular vote versus seats ratio is proportional. If that made any sense lol.
Slimebeast said:
Yeah we got PR in Sweden. But theres a 4% limit. A party has has to get at least 4% of the popular vote to get into parliament. But between all the parties who do get into parliament the popular vote versus seats ratio is proportional. If that made any sense lol. |
crystal clear.....
I hope they get Harriet 'the Harpee' Harman, they deserve her.
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| kowenicki said: Well that should be it. The Conservatives have offered a referendum on alternative voting systems. Thats surely enough to satisfy the power hungry yellow backs? I doit see how the Libs can turn their backs on that and keep credibility now? (if they ever had any) |
If Labour can offer them proportional representation (the Tories pledged Alternative Vote, not PR), then:
1) Gordon Brown and the cabinet have no spines or sense of fairness.
2) The Lib Dems would like that very much.
You know what would be nice? Labour, Lib Dems and the nationalists, join forces, ruin the country, and lose the election in 5 months.
Kantor said:
If Labour can offer them proportional representation (the Tories pledged Alternative Vote, not PR), then: 1) Gordon Brown and the cabinet have no spines or sense of fairness. 2) The Lib Dems would like that very much. You know what would be nice? Labour, Lib Dems and the nationalists, join forces, ruin the country, and lose the election in 5 months. |
That's what i was thinking, if the parties (excluding the conservatives) mess up the countries together, then it gives the voters one REAL alternative for the next 5 years. Possible even the next 10 years!


What I don't get is that Alternative Vote (Labour's formulation) is bad for BOTH the Lib Dems and the Conservatives because it mainly benefits Labour, at a time when the voting system is most biased towards them already in terms of seats against vote share.
So why are the Conservatives offering it?
But I think the Conservatives have already offered everything they can - and more than the Lib Dems deserve given their seat number and the fact that Cameron could easily go for a minority government.
| Soleron said: What I don't get is that Alternative Vote (Labour's formulation) is bad for BOTH the Lib Dems and the Conservatives because it mainly benefits Labour, at a time when the voting system is most biased towards them already in terms of seats against vote share. So why are the Conservatives offering it? But I think the Conservatives have already offered everything they can - and more than the Lib Dems deserve given their seat number and the fact that Cameron could easily go for a minority government. |
A referendum on Alternative Vote. Very different from just passing the law.
Though I suppose it would be more popular than PR.
I don't see why it should benefit Labour. It'll benefit the Lib Dems more than anything, really: Labour has many safe seats, in which people vote Labour, thus setting it as their first choice. The second choice would inevitably be the Liberal Democrats- there is far more common ground between Labour and LibDem than Labour and Tory. Perhaps UKIP would also benefit from being the second choice of many a Tory voter.
Come to think of it, I don't really like this idea.