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It's my belief that people when addressing the Wii seem to highlight the problems the system has without mentioning anything good. I'm going to try to remedy that situation.

1. Assumption: Wii Third-party support is not as good as the other two systems.

Response: The support isn't worse, it's just different. Sure you can ask "Where are games like Lost Planet, Devil May Cry 4 and Assassin's Creed on Wii?" But you can easily turn around and say "Where are games like Muramasa: The Demon Blade, Monster Hunter 3 and No More Heroes on PS3?" Furthermore, the HD Twins (and they're called twins for a reason) have completely neglected genres that are lots of fun and are only found on Wii. Genres like exercise games, Quirky sports games, and quality light-gun shooters. Are those games that everyone will like? No, but just know that I've spent more time on Wii Sports than I have on any game post-SNES (except Smash maybe). If you're a gamer who perfers the games on the HD systems that's fine. But don't go assuming that people can't possibly own JUST a Wii because there aren't enough "cool" games on it.

2. Assumption: The overall Wii library is garbage.

Response: This point is closely connected to my first point but is also different. Clearly the third-party support is different. But the Wii's library is very different in many other ways. For example, in terms of retro gaming, the Wii is THE console to own. It has an ever expanding library of Sega games, PC-Engine games, Arcade games and Nintendo games. Games that are both easy to find (All the Marios) and games that are hard or impossible to find (Sin and Punishment, Ogre Battle 64). The Wii also can play all gamecube games (obviously). Other than that, the Wii has a great library of last-gen updated ports with the likes of REmake, RE:0, Okami, RE:4, Metroid Prime Trilogy, etc. Many of which play better than the originals. Other than VC, the Wii has arguably the best download service with WiiWare. Gems like Lostwinds 1+2, World of Goo, Cave Story, Swords and Soldiers and Icarian. These games are great, especially considering their price. Then you obviously have every game from Nintendo, all of which are arguably better than their gamecube counter-parts. Not only do you have the big series like Mario, Metroid and Zelda but you have some less-known but still great series like Punch-out and Excite. In the end, if you're a core gamer and can't find enough to play on Wii you're not looking hard enough.

3. Assumption: The Wii sucks becuase of all the shovelware.

Response: Easy. Don't buy the shovelware. Ignore it, that's what most Wii owners do. Unfortunatly, you usually can't walk into a Wal-mart and see the "best" third-party games. You have to either go to a game-centric store like Gamestop or shop online. That's not much of a hassle so I don't see why people are complaining.

In conclusion, buying "random games" is a horrible buying strategy. What you're supposed to do is research upcoming games, look online for screenshots or videos or impressions and see if it's the type of game you might like. Then maybe look at a couple of reviews to see if the games buyable. Or better yet, rent the game to see if you like it. However, if you don't end up liking any of the Wii's current and upcoming games, then the Wii is just not for you and you should move on.

it's a big mystery actually, it's really hard to predict what games would sell on Wii

a Wii game cannot sell just by quality, because otherwise Little King's Story, Red Steel 2 and No More Heroes would sell more

price is not really the reason good games don't sell, but can help in some way

multiplayer games also have an advantage on Wii (legs) so it's stupid not to include a 2p mode for Wii games

popular franchises (MH3) also have an advantage on Wii (so why not to release a GTA)

good marketing/promotion/advertising is another thing that can help

what is for sure is that the core gamers are there, they just won't buy full price games without knowing for sure what they buy is good

the best one i can think is that 3rd party games have been sooo awful on Wii for it's first 2 years, most of them short with broken controls, so Nintendo games is a safe road for most people, too late to fix the bad image

something similar to how the word " Mario" is equivalent to quality for Wii owners

You're certainly not alone. My son is in the same boat and so are many of his friends. You can't put a game like Red Steel 2 on Wii without multiplayer and online and expect anyone to pick it up. Even I who spents 90% of my game time on the Wii would sooner buy a 360 game over RS2 as RS2 no matter how good it is, is not a full featured product worthy of a full price tag.
Same with Dead Space Extraction. If it was a full Dead Space 3rd person horror/shooter like RE4 I'd have bought it like RE4. As it is now, I've not picked it up even half price because I have enough on-rails shooters already.

MH3 I have, and I hope it does really well because it's the first truly AAA 3rd party game to come to Wii.

Is it too late? No, Wii is the market leader and a lot of people, yourself included, own Wiis. If the games come out, people will buy. Either way, Wii has won this generation.

Oxymoron much?

I have bought more third party games in three years than any previous three years, I am enjoying my console thoroughly, a lot more than I would with an X360/PS3.

To a point you are correct, 3rd party publishers and some developers have been total assholes about the Wii and not put the effort in that they would on the other consoles, the effort they put into other consoles though is for the most part games I have little interest in, so if they simply copied their games to the Wii as best they can it would make little difference to me in the majority of cases.

No, its too late. The next generation is up soon and Nintendo will get another chance then..

Say what now??

@ commonman and woopah

sorry I speak english perfectly but since I went to a french school

I never really learned how to write it so sorry about that

That's why I asked, we have a lot of posters here that English is not their first language. I didn't want to offend you if that was the case. Not a problem, I got the gist of what you were saying, I just am a grammar nut so I get prickly about stupid stuff.

Well I'm enjoying MH Tri so it's too late for this thread.