Ok I accept that in your opinion brawl is one of the best fighting games, but since I haven't played it enough (although I do own a wii) how can I make such a claim? It seems to me that you do need to be owner to accept this. Also, the games that you listed are not from this generation (or am I wrong?). Have you played Street Fighter IV, Dead or Alive 4, Tekken 6 or VF more than 5 hours, in order to be certain that Brawl is better? Like I said, I've only played Brawl only a few hours, so it's unfair to compare it with Tekken 6.

You do know that smash bros is like the most unbalanced game ever right? Even games with infinite combos are more balanced, so your point is moot. Most tourament matches in melee are between like the same 5 characters or so almost nobody else gets picked. As for brawl, im not sure, but i know a guy that plays smash very competitively and he says that brawl is more unbalanced, but i don't really know.

Besides there is even a quote from Sakurai saying that he doesn't want the game to be competitive, so what was your point again? You can make it into a "fighter" but it isn't one at its very core its a beat em up. How many other fighters have you played which has items, random things like trips and changing environments? As for Naruto Ultimate Ninja or w/e, i've played it, if its the one for PS3. I guess you could call that a fighter since already calling brawl a fighter, imo neither is one but w/e.

Easy, Tekken 6
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lol, but seriously. I think Street Fighter is one of the most viciously overrated games in existence(then comes Mortal Kombat). The move sets are super limited, the combat is jittery and stoic and it has yet to bring it's graphical appeal to this generation(IV still doesn't look up to snuff to me).

And I have the opinion that a fighting game should always build on top of it's roster of characters and their ability, not constantly change them. Thats why I love Tekken, so many characters and fighting styles to choose from. It is loaded with far more content for your money then Street Fighter is, but SF gets all the hype due to it's nostalgic presence withing the gaming world. I also refuse to play games where the characters are not attractive. I simply cannot personify myself with playing with a troll looking character. Tekken has the best looking characters from any fighting series, only Guilty Gear and KOF comes close.

MvsC 3!! XD

Uh it's a fighting game is the point and facts are simply facts no amount of twisting can change that, I was just trying to help you understand the fact that it's a fighting game with supporting evidence, if you want to throw that out it doesn't change a fact.  And the balance issues in Melee arose due to people glitching the game and using it as apart of the meta-game, brawl however took that out.  Some exploits can be done with a couple of characters in brawl, main one being Metaknight, but you still beat metaknight users with skill, and if it gets too bad they just ban him from tournaments. 

But that all factors into Tiers and honestly very few fighting games don't have them. Street Fighter IV I'm pretty sure you'd agree that game is a fighting game, yes?  Well it has obvious tiers, you don't fight with Dan expecting to beat a skilled player that's using Akuma.

Tekken/Virtua Fighter/Street Fighter/KOF/Blaz Blue/Soul Calibur = World Soccer

Smash Brothers Brawl = Street Soccer/Table Soccer


Brawl, alongside with Dragonball and Naruto versus games aren't technical enough to be considered a legit fighting game. (Im a Naruto fanboy but I've to admit the game is junk)

Much like your first statement, I'd honestly like to see you even try to compete with tournament brawl players and act like its not a "legit" fighting game.  Look man the fighting genre is one of my favorite game genres and I play everything from input heavy to combo heavy fighters, there's a skill to each of them, just like there's a skill to brawlers like Smash Bros, many brawlers like DBZ and Naruto don't have as deep of systems as Brawl but people like my friend who convinced me to buy Naruto UNS showed me the tactics of that game as well, he can beat me with pretty much any character and has because he knows the battle system.

I really don't get the people trying to snub other sub genres just because they don't play them, it's all fighting games, but trying to crap on one genre cause it has a different take is pretty bad, it's kinda like the people that try to crap on CoD cause they love Halo... it's just different gameplay styles.

Soul Calibur IV is still my favorite fighter of this generation. The combination of weapons and 3D fighting never gets old. 2D fighters like SF4 are much more confining and boring to me. That said, SC4 underacheived. I still think the original SC on Dreamcast was the best one.

I was very disappointed to see that Tekken 7 is being developed-- I really wanted to see a Soul Calibur 5 first. Instead of using Yoda and Darth Vader, I would like to see characters like Kratos and Ryu from Ninja Gaiden placed into the game.

I didn't really enjoy Blazblue or SS4 this generation. Tekken 6 and Smash Bros are both great, but I haven't played them in depth.

Tekken 6 defnetly, 2 bad SSIV fans sabotaged th game.

Huh? What's SSIV, a SFIV typo? And how did they sabotage the game?