I think the game still plays like Halo, but there are some things to fix. Like Zucas, I think I prefer the old style myself. Still, this is what I had to say in another thread:

Only things I really hate are the melee system, the explosion range of the normal grenades and how the DMR is just not a good weapon compared to the Needle Rifle and the Pistol. Also, stockpile is very awesome, but why does everyone always pick that gametype? And I really hate Team SWAT, 1 Flag CTF and 3 Plot, but that's just personal opinion.

Also, the only overpowered armor ability I've seen so far is the Cloaking one. It's really hard to just win after someone that has it even if you start attacking him at the same time that he sees you (because of how the melee works, you'll mostly die at the same time as him, Halo 3 double KOs style!).

I'm enjoying this new ODST beta compared to the Friends & Family one. People in that one were just toooo good. I mean what's the point, it's a beta damnit! Stats don't even carry over. So... 12 year olds for the win (because of my unfair advantages, and also for having played the beta before most of them, hehe)!

*EDIT: I just want to know since I didn't get to chance to try it: do you see black bars on the left and right of the play screen in 2 player split-screen? I've heard Halo Reach is running in 720p and 2x aa or something, wonder if that means they made it really widescreen or something? It would be a nice touch IMO.

I like it. They Made alot of improvements..

I love it, I can see myself playing this game for hours

If it easily requires more skill than any console game, that means that you played Halo 3 and 2...I never heard of you going pro in those games, but your right they didnt take skill. Halo Reach is where all the skills at ...invisiblity nearly 100% of the time...jetpacks....hell who need teamwork to get the highground....guard...hell you stuck me? no biggie that me just hit LB...scount..lets run around real fast like I do at call of duty and use the bone hammer and sword...GTFO this game require just has much skill as mw2.

ps Where the hell are the weaknesses that everyone halo reach fanboy keeps talking about other than the stalker class cant fly or sprint....or the flying class cant turn invisible...its a joke

I'm enjoying it so far.

your right I've played every Halo game every released.  And every COD.  And every Battlefield.  You get the picture I know my way around shooters and no I'm not pro but I'm legit as hell thats for sure.  And if you honestly can't see how to defeat the other loadouts your showing your an absolute noob at shooters.  Let me teach you a little bit.

Jetpack - This one is so obvious its rediculous.  Your a giant flying target for everyone to aim at.  Plus your in the air with ZERO cover.  Any one who knows how to actually shoot can own these guys in under five seconds.

Active Camo - Again so obvious.  You naturally jam every one's radar in a 30 meter radias not to mention the more you move and start shooting you become visible again.  This class is incredibly easy to counter act by simply being aware of your surroundings and not rushing head long and spraying and praying.

Armor Lock - Easy to counter act as well.  When someone goes into armor lock it usually means they've already taken damage.  The two most effecient ways of taking care of them would be A) either simply be patient wait for it to end and time a grenade throw to blow them up or B) since their in lock down and can't move just strafe fire a couple DMR round into their head as soon as they come up since they'll be facing the oposite way.  Again it just takes skill pure and simple.  Standing there and just waiting for them to come out of it is dumb.  And skilless.

Sprint - You can't fricking shoot when you sprint.  So easy just shoot the dude whose sprinting cause he can't shoot you back.

Halo 3 was a complete noob fest game compared to Reach and that's prob why you are complaining so much.  The fact is the amount of skill required to be good at this game is indeed through the roof.  Easily the most skill focused shooter ever released on a console by a HUGE margin.  Like I said I'm shocked that Bungie have been this bold to release such a hardcore game.  Just as it should be.  Bad players shouldn't be rewarded with easy kills and thats why a good strategy and quick thinking will own every single thing you can throw at them. 

After playing more hours of beta, as I trying to like the game. The shooting mechanics are better and bungie did a good job on that. But the armor stuff I know how to counter it and play the game but its down right dumb. The armor stuff is made for noobs..do you honestly think bungie was like the pros want jetpacks and invisiblity suits lol If you say yes than this thread is over and I dont have a response to that kind of stupidty.

I hope there are custom games where u can take that suit shit off then I will buy the game or if there is a specific playist where armor suits dont exist that would be awsome. Sprinting plus bone crusher is a way bad players can get kills so I just proved you wrong. Invisiblity camping is epic.. I  feel like I am playing cod and looking for campers in every corner. But hey if you like the game then you play it and enjoy it.

I'm really shocked ppl found this game forign to Handel?.... REALLY?

Gosh I must be better than I thought! Although the buttons are mashed around I found it distinctively halo!! It took me 5mins to get used to.

Here what I love about it:

•the way the Spartans feel alot more heavy, less flimsy and light

•mothiom blur and visor effects

•improved sounds when granades go off

•loadouts! Amazing? Unbalanced??? Yeah if ur crap with them! I've dabbled with all of them
a little... Yes I started off with jet pack then sprint then armour lock. I love the clocking but I'm still getting used to not just jumping in crazy styles!

•new weapons! All of witch seem to fit in well! I love the laser sniper thing... Awsome!

•level designs seem very different! Gotta say I prf the out doors one! It looks stunning and is easy enough to learn.

•new energy system! Fantastic was a little scared about this one wen I 1st read about it but again it works amazing! I live the health pack it gives the game more risk!

•beat downs and assasinations. I'm glad they have toned town the power of the punch even tho it was a sure way to win...the assasinations are cool still getting used to them. I'm glad they are harder to pull off than I thought they would be!

•no lag at all! Got a few connection errors and disconnected from live once BUT apart from that the game run at top speed!

•veto map system seems alot more free and less pre set. Love how you can change ur mind on a vote.

•split screen inc! Again this is a MUST have halo feature!

•limited jump. This takes sum getting uses to but seems to work well. It makes the split level combat much mote relevant rather than being able to acsess all areas easy.

•granade bounce and high lights help see where they are rather than just being blow un

•solid grapics and game play! Yep no mw2 or gears glitches! This game is locked Down and tight! All about skill and not cheep!

Things I don't like or need:

•Two hands.... Two guns... Neva go back bungie! Ok so I didn't use it MUCH but it shouldn't be taken out of the game... Balance it better... I'd allow only pistols to be DW with a slight decrease in acracy.

• bubble sheild, engergy depleters gone... Ok so we got armor upgrades BUT no bubble sheild. Yes it was hard to use but if u got good with it you could deflect sticky granades protect flags etc... Bring it back!!! Also the energy depleter was great for taking banshies out of the shy or stopping worthogs for a few seconds...


Overal I have to say it's kinda perfect and I've not even got in a tank yet!!! Even with the beta I feel no pull to go back to halo3 even tho I've played this game practicaly 1-3 a week since launch!

Great job bungie!

quick question, on an n4g preview they said reach has a blur on the screen going around the edges of the screen, how does this motion blur work?

bone hammer? lol, never heard it called that.  You sure you played the Halo games?