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Haste262 on 04 May 2010
flowjo said:
i can get a 470 for around 450 bucks and i can get a hd5970 for roughly 615 bucks, yes they arent the same price but when you look at the performance gap the hd 5970 is clearly the one to buy for the 150-200 bucks more.

oh and some of you are saying the 5870 is faster than the 470 thats not true at all the 470 is the fastest single gpu card on the market but just marginally, barely unnoticeable.

2 sli 470's is probably the fastest thing you can get for just under $1000 bucks , but nobody needs that amount of power plus its the hottest running card as well , gonna need to have a very cool box to run them.

but if you want to spend over $1000 you can get crossfire hd5970's basically nothing can touch that, not even 2 480's or whatever nvidia decides to come out with in the next year or 2.

if you need one card buy a 5970 2gb.


Im pretty sure the 5870 does beat the gtx470, everywhere i look suggests so. Its the gtx480 that edges the 5870. The gtx480 is a single gpu card, so how can gtx470 possible be the fastest?



 

 

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dahuman on 04 May 2010
Mazty said:
ssj12 said:
Haste262 said:
ssj12 said:
Galaki said:

Everybody here uses this,

sorry, I use this =]

 

with a possible step-up in 72 days to this

 

or the GTX 475/485 if respin rumors are true

I have to say. Horrible cards.

for what reason? so far im quite impressed with my GTX470SC. I have yet to see a heating issue. My GPU running Crysis maxed sits at about 80c. Its called actually having good cooling in your case. Reviewers have to use some pretty badly cooled cases inorder for them to even see those load temps. Fan noise? I've tested it at 95% fan speed. Its not that load at all. My 9600GT was loader at 95%. Cost, yes it was a bit pricy. At least I know I have EVGA's customer support which is one of the best in the industry. Performance, they are the fastest single GPU cards on the market, and since I use folding@home, their performance is amazing there as well.

@flow - I've been burned way to many times by ATI's piss poor support and quality. AMD might have saved them but, idc, ive had more than a dozen GPUs burn out in under 3 months. I never had an issue with Nvidia cards. I will buy AMD processors, hence this PC running an 7750be, but still will never touch AMD/ATI GPUs.

 

It'll be interesting to see how cooling is after a month or more of heavy use. Simpyl put ATI have won this generation, mainly due to the fact they have their own production plant and have no issue dishing out 40nm products and are even moving onto 28nm products for ARM.

The Fermi chip was never designed to be a good graphics card and clearly it naturally isn't. The clock speeds are downright bizarre, hot temps and rediculous power consumption. Plus with less than 10k chips out, it seems the card is having low yields, which has really battered Nvidias stock.

A chip that was focused on HPC was never going to wow the graphics world, and this card certainly hasn't. ATI's single chip cards may be a little bit weaker in some games, but they are cheaper, cooler and less power hungry. Plus there is no way in hell there is going to be a double chip GF100 card anytime soon considering the power the GTX480 needs, and the cooling with it being the first ever GPU to have heat pipes on the stock model.

I usually go with ATI these days because of power draw vs price vs performance, the power draw of DX11 cards in between ATI and Nvidia are really far apart right now and ATI easily takes the cake on that front especially in 2+ card situations.

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flowjo on 04 May 2010
Haste262 said:
flowjo said:
i can get a 470 for around 450 bucks and i can get a hd5970 for roughly 615 bucks, yes they arent the same price but when you look at the performance gap the hd 5970 is clearly the one to buy for the 150-200 bucks more.

oh and some of you are saying the 5870 is faster than the 470 thats not true at all the 470 is the fastest single gpu card on the market but just marginally, barely unnoticeable.

2 sli 470's is probably the fastest thing you can get for just under $1000 bucks , but nobody needs that amount of power plus its the hottest running card as well , gonna need to have a very cool box to run them.

but if you want to spend over $1000 you can get crossfire hd5970's basically nothing can touch that, not even 2 480's or whatever nvidia decides to come out with in the next year or 2.

if you need one card buy a 5970 2gb.


Im pretty sure the 5870 does beat the gtx470, everywhere i look suggests so. Its the gtx480 that edges the 5870. The gtx480 is a single gpu card, so how can gtx470 possible be the fastest?

 

your right my bad the 480 is the fastest single gpu card, its a beast but for the price your better off getting a 5970 for 150 bucks more which is still leagues ahead



dahuman on 04 May 2010
flowjo said:
Haste262 said:
flowjo said:
i can get a 470 for around 450 bucks and i can get a hd5970 for roughly 615 bucks, yes they arent the same price but when you look at the performance gap the hd 5970 is clearly the one to buy for the 150-200 bucks more.

oh and some of you are saying the 5870 is faster than the 470 thats not true at all the 470 is the fastest single gpu card on the market but just marginally, barely unnoticeable.

2 sli 470's is probably the fastest thing you can get for just under $1000 bucks , but nobody needs that amount of power plus its the hottest running card as well , gonna need to have a very cool box to run them.

but if you want to spend over $1000 you can get crossfire hd5970's basically nothing can touch that, not even 2 480's or whatever nvidia decides to come out with in the next year or 2.

if you need one card buy a 5970 2gb.


Im pretty sure the 5870 does beat the gtx470, everywhere i look suggests so. Its the gtx480 that edges the 5870. The gtx480 is a single gpu card, so how can gtx470 possible be the fastest?

 

your right my bad the 480 is the fastest single gpu card, its a beast but for the price your better off getting a 5970 for 150 bucks more which is still leagues ahead

get this though, I got my Eye6 for 460 bucks at a total price =P



Squilliam on 05 May 2010
Mazty said:

To be honest, multidisplays this gen are pointless. Even the top GPU's can't get close to 60FPS with a 3 monitor display set up, let alone 6 or 12, or 3D vision. It's a nice idea that's a generation too early.


Its nice to see you're in your own little world.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/3621/amds-radeon-hd-5870-eyefinity-6-edition-reviewed/7

Now obviously if you wanted 60FPS you'd turn a couple of things down...



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ssj12 on 05 May 2010
Squilliam said:
Mazty said:

To be honest, multidisplays this gen are pointless. Even the top GPU's can't get close to 60FPS with a 3 monitor display set up, let alone 6 or 12, or 3D vision. It's a nice idea that's a generation too early.


Its nice to see you're in your own little world.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/3621/amds-radeon-hd-5870-eyefinity-6-edition-reviewed/7

Now obviously if you wanted 60FPS you'd turn a couple of things down...

I really dont see the point of multiple screens. Why doesnt monitor manufacturers just make wrap around screens?



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Mazty on 05 May 2010
Squilliam said:
Mazty said:

To be honest, multidisplays this gen are pointless. Even the top GPU's can't get close to 60FPS with a 3 monitor display set up, let alone 6 or 12, or 3D vision. It's a nice idea that's a generation too early.


Its nice to see you're in your own little world.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/3621/amds-radeon-hd-5870-eyefinity-6-edition-reviewed/7

Now obviously if you wanted 60FPS you'd turn a couple of things down...

Er how am I in my own little world?

Are you really using multiplatform games as examples of multi monitor gaming over 60FPS? Tsk tsk, everyone knows multiplatform games look like ass, so it's a very moot point playing ass over 3 monitors.



Squilliam on 05 May 2010
Mazty said:
Squilliam said:


Its nice to see you're in your own little world.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/3621/amds-radeon-hd-5870-eyefinity-6-edition-reviewed/7

Now obviously if you wanted 60FPS you'd turn a couple of things down...

Er how am I in my own little world?

Are you really using multiplatform games as examples of multi monitor gaming over 60FPS? Tsk tsk, everyone knows multiplatform games look like ass, so it's a very moot point playing ass over 3 monitors.


In a multiplatform world, an HD 5870 is overkill for every game resolution available so why not run 3 monitors? Whether or not the games look like ass to you doesn't matter. Besides if most multiplatform games look like ass to you then most games look like ass.

@SSJ

You obviously have never thought about playing games with an ultra wide FOV because its more than just extra screen realestate, its using your peripheral vision and immersing yourself into the game in a completely new way. Once you've tried it you won't want to go back. Im sure though that had it been Nvidia with the technology you'd be all over it.



Tease.

SnesTea on 05 May 2010
Squilliam said:

Whats your buget?

>$100 either a HD 5750 or HD 5770

= $100 HD 5670

<$100 HD 5570

All from ATI

Whats your system?

Run this: http://www.cpuid.com/download/cpuz/cpuz_154_setup.exe

Tell us:

if you have PCI-Express (mainboard tab)
what CPU you are running (main tab)
how much ram you have (memory tab)
what GPU you have now (graphics tab)

I was just about to recommend those!



ssj12 on 05 May 2010
Squilliam said:
Mazty said:
Squilliam said:


Its nice to see you're in your own little world.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/3621/amds-radeon-hd-5870-eyefinity-6-edition-reviewed/7

Now obviously if you wanted 60FPS you'd turn a couple of things down...

Er how am I in my own little world?

Are you really using multiplatform games as examples of multi monitor gaming over 60FPS? Tsk tsk, everyone knows multiplatform games look like ass, so it's a very moot point playing ass over 3 monitors.


In a multiplatform world, an HD 5870 is overkill for every game resolution available so why not run 3 monitors? Whether or not the games look like ass to you doesn't matter. Besides if most multiplatform games look like ass to you then most games look like ass.

@SSJ

You obviously have never thought about playing games with an ultra wide FOV because its more than just extra screen realestate, its using your peripheral vision and immersing yourself into the game in a completely new way. Once you've tried it you won't want to go back. Im sure though that had it been Nvidia with the technology you'd be all over it.

Nvidia has had the tech to do multi monitors for a while now. I really havent seen a reason to even upgrade my monitor. Its one of the best Acer ever made.

 



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