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Carl2291 said:
£50,000 per person who wants to go back to there country is IMO better than offering a family of people a £150,000 house and benefits.

Plus, did HE actually say "non-white"? I don't see it in the article. In other articles it's not used... Not in the interview

http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today/newsid_8650000/8650909.stm

... Nor in this video?

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3eb_1272563558&c=1

He actually makes some VERY good points. The Doctors point is a really good one, and fully supports the "Pay people £50,000 if they WANT to go back"

Well...?

Did he say it, or is it just the usual media word twisting?



                            

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I got the red quote thing on the side of the page, but no quote... Happened twice now.

Is this just happening to me or other people?



                            

Carl, you quoted yourself xD



Nooo i mean after that. And it happened again in this thread.

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=108276

And the site wont let me bold, underline, italic or colour any words.

VGC is broken :/



                            

BNP, National Front, UKIP, Tree Huggers, Green and the Communist Party are all just pressure groups. It just so happens that BNP and Green are doing the best out of them.



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Carl2291 said:
Carl2291 said:
£50,000 per person who wants to go back to there country is IMO better than offering a family of people a £150,000 house and benefits.

Plus, did HE actually say "non-white"? I don't see it in the article. In other articles it's not used... Not in the interview

http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today/newsid_8650000/8650909.stm

... Nor in this video?

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3eb_1272563558&c=1

He actually makes some VERY good points. The Doctors point is a really good one, and fully supports the "Pay people £50,000 if they WANT to go back"

Well...?

Did he say it, or is it just the usual media word twisting?

He doesn't say "none white" at 4:30 when he is talking about the long term resettlement plan, that part comes just before. If you listen from 3:30 she picks him up on the statistics he uses and shows he means none-white British, so essentially people of foreign lineage.

The resettlement plan is a further development from this conversation about how he has chosen non-white British in his statistics. He does essentially say it will be offered to none white Britons.

...

Also, remember, racism isn't just about skin colour, it's about nationality too. When he says non-white British, he means eastern Europeans and the like too.

...

And about the doctors part at the end. He says that for his own agenda. He's using the "they are needed in their own country more" argument as a way of essentially saying "I'm not allowing foreign doctors in". He has been pretty clear on his plans for not letting foreign doctors work for the NHS in the past, if a doctor came from somewhere like Israel where they are plentiful, he would still turn them away.



highwaystar101 said:
Carl2291 said:
Carl2291 said:
£50,000 per person who wants to go back to there country is IMO better than offering a family of people a £150,000 house and benefits.

Plus, did HE actually say "non-white"? I don't see it in the article. In other articles it's not used... Not in the interview

http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today/newsid_8650000/8650909.stm

... Nor in this video?

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3eb_1272563558&c=1

He actually makes some VERY good points. The Doctors point is a really good one, and fully supports the "Pay people £50,000 if they WANT to go back"

Well...?

Did he say it, or is it just the usual media word twisting?

He doesn't say "none white" at 4:30 when he is talking about the long term resettlement plan, that part comes just before. If you listen from 3:30 she picks him up on the statistics he uses and shows he means none-white British, so essentially people of foreign lineage.

The resettlement plan is a further development from this conversation about how he has chosen non-white British in his statistics. He does essentially say it will be offered to none white Britons.

...

Also, remember, racism isn't just about skin colour, it's about nationality too. When he says non-white British, he means eastern Europeans and the like too.

...

And about the doctors part at the end. He says that for his own agenda. He's just using the "they are needed in their own country more" argument as a way of essentially saying "I'm not allowing foreign doctors in". He has been pretty clear on his plans not letting foreign doctors work for the NHS in the past, if a doctor came from somewhere like Israel where they are plentiful, he would still turn them away.


So under your definition(s) Brown saying he wants "British Jobs for British people" was inciting racial hatred? He was activley intentionally racially disriminating against people? There is nothing wrong with being nationalistic and being proud of your nation. It's a shame that my generation has being brought up by seeing patriotism as been a negative trait...



FootballFan said:
highwaystar101 said:
Carl2291 said:

Well...?

Did he say it, or is it just the usual media word twisting?

He doesn't say "none white" at 4:30 when he is talking about the long term resettlement plan, that part comes just before. If you listen from 3:30 she picks him up on the statistics he uses and shows he means none-white British, so essentially people of foreign lineage.

The resettlement plan is a further development from this conversation about how he has chosen non-white British in his statistics. He does essentially say it will be offered to none white Britons.

...

Also, remember, racism isn't just about skin colour, it's about nationality too. When he says non-white British, he means eastern Europeans and the like too.

...

And about the doctors part at the end. He says that for his own agenda. He's just using the "they are needed in their own country more" argument as a way of essentially saying "I'm not allowing foreign doctors in". He has been pretty clear on his plans not letting foreign doctors work for the NHS in the past, if a doctor came from somewhere like Israel where they are plentiful, he would still turn them away.


So under your definition(s) Brown saying he wants "British Jobs for British people" was inciting racial hatred? There is nothing wrong with being nationalistic and being proud of your nation. It's a shame that my generation has being brought up by seeing patriotism as been a negative trait...

Ah, the straw man argument. Don't accuse me of holding a position that I don't actually hold.

There's nothing wrong with supporting your own people and even favouring them. Brown didn't say that foreign workers would not be allowed, or anything like that. It's perfectly fine to support your own population and still allow foreign workers to gun for any job they want.

The BNP used the analogy of the Japanese Physicist, now that I don't agree with. That's just unfair because the immigrant is outright being told when and where they can work. That's not the same as what Brown proposed at all, he would allow immigrants to do any job they could get. Nick griffin would bring in an immigrant and tell them what job to do and not let them have the opportunity to do anything else.

And I bet Nick Griffin would seldom import labour, even if the country was falling apart at the seem because we've ran out of scientists and skilled labourers.



highwaystar101 said:
Carl2291 said:
Carl2291 said:
£50,000 per person who wants to go back to there country is IMO better than offering a family of people a £150,000 house and benefits.

Plus, did HE actually say "non-white"? I don't see it in the article. In other articles it's not used... Not in the interview

http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today/newsid_8650000/8650909.stm

... Nor in this video?

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3eb_1272563558&c=1

He actually makes some VERY good points. The Doctors point is a really good one, and fully supports the "Pay people £50,000 if they WANT to go back"

Well...?

Did he say it, or is it just the usual media word twisting?

He doesn't say "none white" at 4:30 when he is talking about the long term resettlement plan, that part comes just before. If you listen from 3:30 she picks him up on the statistics he uses and shows he means none-white British, so essentially people of foreign lineage.

The resettlement plan is a further development from this conversation about how he has chosen non-white British in his statistics. He does essentially say it will be offered to none white Britons.

Also, remember, racism isn't just about skin colour, it's about nationality too. When he says non-white British, he means eastern Europeans and the like too.

And about the doctors part at the end. He says that for his own agenda. He's using the "they are needed in their own country more" argument as a way of essentially saying "I'm not allowing foreign doctors in". He has been pretty clear on his plans for not letting foreign doctors work for the NHS in the past, if a doctor came from somewhere like Israel where they are plentiful, he would still turn them away.

Thanks for pointing out what she was basing it on, i missed that bit.

Anyway... Who said anything about racism? Here's something for you to think about. If wanting a LOT less immigrants, refugees, or whatever... In this country (that aren't needed here) is classed as racist, you would find a LOT of the UK popultion are infact... Racist. Eek.

For his own agenda? Of course he did. It's a fact that proves his point. You see Gordon Brown, David Cameron and Nick Clegg do it all the time. And you can't say he wouldn't. You have no proof he wouldn't. If he says he would (and has done for a while), then you can't just say "he would still turn them away" just because you THINK he would.



                            

FootballFan said:

So under your definition(s) Brown saying he wants "British Jobs for British people" was inciting racial hatred? He was activley intentionally racially disriminating against people? There is nothing wrong with being nationalistic and being proud of your nation. It's a shame that my generation has being brought up by seeing patriotism as been a negative trait...

I know EXACTLY what you mean with that last sentence.

Not even allowed to celebrate St. Georges Day...

 

Something needs to change, and fast.