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Kasz216 on 27 November 2007
ChronotriggerJM said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
My point was trumpeting Blu-Ray's sales in this manner, (73% of market) is rather pointless when you realize how small the HD market is, sure its beating HD-DVD, but both are still being trounced by DVD

 But this isn't a comparison between DVD and Blu-ray, therefor that less than one percent just so happens to be the target of focus in this thread. If you really don't care about either format then your fine, dvd isn't going anywhere anytime soon :) HOWEVER for the people wanting to speculate on the current rate of succes in the Blu vs. HD-DVD war, then this information is somewhat usefull. 


However it being such a small number pretty much invalidates the results as pointless as it would be easy to overturn.  This info isn't useful at all for speculation unless you enjoy jumping to conclusions.

It's about as good for Speculation as HD-DVD's talk of attach rates in europe.  With HD-DVD having an attach rate of 3.8 with Blu-ray having an attach rate of 0.6. (attach rates mean nothing.)



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ChronotriggerJM on 27 November 2007
Kasz216 said:
ChronotriggerJM said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
My point was trumpeting Blu-Ray's sales in this manner, (73% of market) is rather pointless when you realize how small the HD market is, sure its beating HD-DVD, but both are still being trounced by DVD

But this isn't a comparison between DVD and Blu-ray, therefor that less than one percent just so happens to be the target of focus in this thread. If you really don't care about either format then your fine, dvd isn't going anywhere anytime soon :) HOWEVER for the people wanting to speculate on the current rate of succes in the Blu vs. HD-DVD war, then this information is somewhat usefull.


However it being such a small number pretty much invalidates the results as pointless as it would be easy to overturn. This info isn't useful at all for speculation unless you enjoy jumping to conclusions.

It's about as good for Speculation as HD-DVD's talk of attach rates in europe. With HD-DVD having an attach rate of 3.8 with Blu-ray having an attach rate of 0.6. (attach rates mean nothing.)


 And I'm not sure if you could be more right :) but, given the topics name and direction that wasn't for the DVD fanboi's to decide. People jump to conclusions about everything nowadays, and although its the smallest portion of the pie for sure, its 77 percent that HD-DVD doesn't have, if it means the world to those who support blu-ray, let them have their pie. No one needs to shit in it :)



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Delusional on 27 November 2007
ProfDallas said:
Does anybody here honestly think that HD-DVD has a chance to win?

Yes, 4 people I know grabbed an HD DVD player this thanksgiving and only 1 bought a PS3 for gaming only.  But it doesn't say much because no matter what, <5% of total market is still too little to declare anything.  Anything can go at this point since it's still early in the game.



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Kasz216 on 27 November 2007
ChronotriggerJM said:
Kasz216 said:
ChronotriggerJM said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
My point was trumpeting Blu-Ray's sales in this manner, (73% of market) is rather pointless when you realize how small the HD market is, sure its beating HD-DVD, but both are still being trounced by DVD

But this isn't a comparison between DVD and Blu-ray, therefor that less than one percent just so happens to be the target of focus in this thread. If you really don't care about either format then your fine, dvd isn't going anywhere anytime soon :) HOWEVER for the people wanting to speculate on the current rate of succes in the Blu vs. HD-DVD war, then this information is somewhat usefull.


However it being such a small number pretty much invalidates the results as pointless as it would be easy to overturn. This info isn't useful at all for speculation unless you enjoy jumping to conclusions.

It's about as good for Speculation as HD-DVD's talk of attach rates in europe. With HD-DVD having an attach rate of 3.8 with Blu-ray having an attach rate of 0.6. (attach rates mean nothing.)


 And I'm not sure if you could be more right :) but, given the topics name and direction that wasn't for the DVD fanboi's to decide. People jump to conclusions about everything nowadays, and although its the smallest portion of the pie for sure, its 77 percent that HD-DVD doesn't have, if it means the world to those who support blu-ray, let them have their pie. No one needs to shit in it :)


How so?  The topic at hand is that Blu-Ray has 73% of the HD-DVD market.  Saying that the HD-DVD market is not big enough to viably draw any long lasting conclusions from the percentage is PERFECTLY on topic. 



MikeB on 27 November 2007

LONDON (Reuters) - High definition movie DVDs in the Blu-ray format have outsold the rival HD DVD standard in Europe this year, breaking the 1 million barrier and constituting 73 percent of all HD movie discs sold.

Citing industry sales data, the Blu-ray disc association said in a statement on Tuesday Blu-ray movie disc sales had topped 1 million units and when counting Blu-ray gaming discs the total number produced for sale in Europe exceeded 21 million units.


Wow, 20 million PS3 game discs sold! 8-)

Of the high definition movie discs bought by consumers so far this year in Europe, 73 percent were in the Blu-ray Disc format and 27 percent were HD DVD, according to sales data provided by Media Control Gfk International.


Good figures for Japan and Europe, the sooner this war is over the better.



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ChronotriggerJM on 27 November 2007
Kasz216 said:
ChronotriggerJM said:
Kasz216 said:
ChronotriggerJM said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
My point was trumpeting Blu-Ray's sales in this manner, (73% of market) is rather pointless when you realize how small the HD market is, sure its beating HD-DVD, but both are still being trounced by DVD

But this isn't a comparison between DVD and Blu-ray, therefor that less than one percent just so happens to be the target of focus in this thread. If you really don't care about either format then your fine, dvd isn't going anywhere anytime soon :) HOWEVER for the people wanting to speculate on the current rate of succes in the Blu vs. HD-DVD war, then this information is somewhat usefull.


However it being such a small number pretty much invalidates the results as pointless as it would be easy to overturn. This info isn't useful at all for speculation unless you enjoy jumping to conclusions.

It's about as good for Speculation as HD-DVD's talk of attach rates in europe. With HD-DVD having an attach rate of 3.8 with Blu-ray having an attach rate of 0.6. (attach rates mean nothing.)


And I'm not sure if you could be more right :) but, given the topics name and direction that wasn't for the DVD fanboi's to decide. People jump to conclusions about everything nowadays, and although its the smallest portion of the pie for sure, its 77 percent that HD-DVD doesn't have, if it means the world to those who support blu-ray, let them have their pie. No one needs to shit in it :)


How so? The topic at hand is that Blu-Ray has 73% of the HD-DVD market. Saying that the HD-DVD market is not big enough to viably draw any long lasting conclusions from the percentage is PERFECTLY on topic.


 Oh anything HD-DVD related is very much so  related :)  But the fact that  the entire high def market is miniscule by comparison to the DVD market is not. Thats obvious, this is talking about who has a bigger market share in europe for the HIGH DEF movie formats. Blu-ray vs. HD-DVD is perfectly acceptable conversation matter here. 



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Kasz216 on 27 November 2007
etuoyo said:
hunter_alien said:
So anyone still not shure who will win the format war ?

I think we all know it's going to be DVD.


Just because DVD player sales and DVD sales are increasing dramatically instead of decreasing in Europe doesn't mean that one or both couldn't stay around and be a second format ala Lazer Disc.



MikeB on 30 November 2007

More good news for Blu-Ray, this time with regard to the US:

Blu-ray overpowers HD DVD three-to-one in Black Friday weekend
http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/35061/113/

"Though Nielsen did not give absolute numbers, it reported that around 72% of all HD disc movie sales were attributed to Blu-ray, leaving about 28% for HD DVD."



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