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PS3 will finish second for hom consoles. wheres ps2?



Loud_Hot_White_Box said:
slowmo said:
XxXProphecyXxX said:
Loud_Hot_White_Box said:
slowmo said:
jneul said:

oh look at how fast the people on the ps3 is teh DOOMED bandwagon, hopefully Sony sort out these shortages, as for PS3 being over tracked, in your dreams, if anything it is under tracked and there are shortages in the US, never mind Japan will sort this out x360 to be outsold this week by at least 20k

When will the PS3 not be in shortage?  The day it perhaps outsells the 360 again?  There is hardly anyone saying the PS3 is doomed but an awful lot of Sony fans running daage control on what are frankly bad numbers given the huge momentum Sony had going into the holiday period.

oh my god.  it was having shortages when it was on top of 360, too.  and this when the heavy discount pricing of 360 has been in effect, on and off, for a month or more now.

hey, by bad numbers do you mean the ones showing ps3 in the lead WW?  even with said discounts for 360 in the US as stated above?

Don't worry he'll realize sooner or later how calling ps3 sales bad just made teh 360 look worst LOL!

Rather immature guys but say what you like, you're only painting yourselves in a bad light. 

I didn't mention whether 360 sales are good or bad I can only assume you seem to think that by telling me they are in somehow bad you would wind me up.  It still doesn't change the simple fact that the PS3 sales in the US are terrible given the circumstances.  360 sales are bad everywhere except the US and UK imo, but thats hardly relevant to a US hardware sales trhead now is it?

PS3 sales in the US are terrible?  There are no bundles or PS3 price cuts, as there are with 360, and there have been PS3 stock shortages on and off, and most importantly PS3 sales have been fairly close to 360 sales in the US for a while now.  Sometimes even on top.  Yet you are saying the difference is so great that PS3 sales are "terrible" and 360 sales are good?

Considering the prices and offerings of the consoles, PS3 sales are not terrible and 360 sales are not that good, as you claim.  You are just injecting your own values into the discussion, and it really only has had a chance of resonating this past week.  PS3/360 sales overall aren't great right now, but if you insist I only say that in the WW thread, because 360 sales are "good" in the Americas, I'll make sure to repeat it there.  I know I know, in this thead we can only look at the Americas column and lol that the PS3 has lost its momentum, this past week only, when it'll handily outsell 360 WW.  Makes sense, man. 

Hey, when PS3 "had momentum", how often did it outsell 360 in the Americas?

EDIT: and note that in the Others thread, where PS3 beat 360 by more than 360 beat PS3 in the US, there are fewer people trolling 360, less repeatedly.  It's probably because PS3 does that regularly over there while Americas has typically been a relatively closer race until this week.


Just to highlight some logic for you:

"sales are bad everywhere except US and UK" does not equal "360 sales are amazing in those territories"

If you think that the PS3 numbers are good after all Sony did last year, then frankly we have nothing more to discuss.  If the 360 had cut down to $149 and was performing in the same way I'd call it a disappointment like it is.



andremop said:
hollywood85 said:
CommonMan said:
Pretty epic meltdown in this thread for such small numbers all around.

I know right, some people won't accept the ps3 has shortages........I mean does it really matter imo

My god, It's not that people is not accepting that... It's because Ioi himself said there are no shortages. If you trust VGchartz numbers you have to trust ioi too!

O_O.......................................so what happenes if you disagree with ioi....................

QUICK  !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

 

lol j/k, but I live in new jersey, and often travel to nyc  (like everyday) and in my area there are no ps3s, and in all the gamestpos in downtown manhattan I've been to there aren't there either, that's what I'm going off of. don't know about the rest of the good ole U S and A so i retract my pervious statement.

stupid amurrkeens can't give us accurate data -_-.



hollywood85 said:
andremop said:
hollywood85 said:
CommonMan said:
Pretty epic meltdown in this thread for such small numbers all around.

I know right, some people won't accept the ps3 has shortages........I mean does it really matter imo

My god, It's not that people is not accepting that... It's because Ioi himself said there are no shortages. If you trust VGchartz numbers you have to trust ioi too!

O_O.......................................so what happenes if you disagree with ioi....................

QUICK  !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

 

lol j/k, but I live in new jersey, and often travel to nyc  (like everyday) and in my area there are no ps3s, and in all the gamestpos in downtown manhattan I've been to there aren't there either, that's what I'm going off of. don't know about the rest of the good ole U S and A so i retract my pervious statement.

stupid amurrkeens can't give us accurate data -_-.

All data is to be taken with either a grain or several tons of salt, ioi or not. :<

As far as hardware numbers go, there's a more or less 10% accuracy margin, so anyone can speculate but nobody really knows.



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slowmo said:


Just to highlight some logic for you:

"sales are bad everywhere except US and UK" does not equal "360 sales are amazing in those territories"

If you think that the PS3 numbers are good after all Sony did last year, then frankly we have nothing more to discuss.  If the 360 had cut down to $149 and was performing in the same way I'd call it a disappointment like it is.

I never said you said 'amazing'.  I did equate you saying "not bad in US" with "good in US".  If you meant something different, I want you to say how much less than good 360 is doing in the US.  Otherwise my equating one with the other was appropriate.

I don't think PS3 numbers *this week,* which you are jumping all over, are particularly good.  But what YOU said is that they are TERRIBLE.  Here's some logic for you: just because I reject that PS3 sales are terrible (especially in weeks before this one, and especially WW), doesn't mean I think this week's US numbers are particularly good for PS3.  They're not terrible, even though -- yes -- even though PS3 had a price cut last year that really spurred sales.  If PS3 is terrible, 360 worldwide must be really terrible.  But then again we know the time of year has a lot to do with sales figures. If we're thinking straight.



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slowmo said:
Loud_Hot_White_Box said:
slowmo said:
XxXProphecyXxX said:
Loud_Hot_White_Box said:
slowmo said:
jneul said:

oh look at how fast the people on the ps3 is teh DOOMED bandwagon, hopefully Sony sort out these shortages, as for PS3 being over tracked, in your dreams, if anything it is under tracked and there are shortages in the US, never mind Japan will sort this out x360 to be outsold this week by at least 20k

When will the PS3 not be in shortage?  The day it perhaps outsells the 360 again?  There is hardly anyone saying the PS3 is doomed but an awful lot of Sony fans running daage control on what are frankly bad numbers given the huge momentum Sony had going into the holiday period.

oh my god.  it was having shortages when it was on top of 360, too.  and this when the heavy discount pricing of 360 has been in effect, on and off, for a month or more now.

hey, by bad numbers do you mean the ones showing ps3 in the lead WW?  even with said discounts for 360 in the US as stated above?

Don't worry he'll realize sooner or later how calling ps3 sales bad just made teh 360 look worst LOL!

Rather immature guys but say what you like, you're only painting yourselves in a bad light. 

I didn't mention whether 360 sales are good or bad I can only assume you seem to think that by telling me they are in somehow bad you would wind me up.  It still doesn't change the simple fact that the PS3 sales in the US are terrible given the circumstances.  360 sales are bad everywhere except the US and UK imo, but thats hardly relevant to a US hardware sales trhead now is it?

PS3 sales in the US are terrible?  There are no bundles or PS3 price cuts, as there are with 360, and there have been PS3 stock shortages on and off, and most importantly PS3 sales have been fairly close to 360 sales in the US for a while now.  Sometimes even on top.  Yet you are saying the difference is so great that PS3 sales are "terrible" and 360 sales are good?

Considering the prices and offerings of the consoles, PS3 sales are not terrible and 360 sales are not that good, as you claim.  You are just injecting your own values into the discussion, and it really only has had a chance of resonating this past week.  PS3/360 sales overall aren't great right now, but if you insist I only say that in the WW thread, because 360 sales are "good" in the Americas, I'll make sure to repeat it there.  I know I know, in this thead we can only look at the Americas column and lol that the PS3 has lost its momentum, this past week only, when it'll handily outsell 360 WW.  Makes sense, man. 

Hey, when PS3 "had momentum", how often did it outsell 360 in the Americas?

EDIT: and note that in the Others thread, where PS3 beat 360 by more than 360 beat PS3 in the US, there are fewer people trolling 360, less repeatedly.  It's probably because PS3 does that regularly over there while Americas has typically been a relatively closer race until this week.


Just to highlight some logic for you:

"sales are bad everywhere except US and UK" does not equal "360 sales are amazing in those territories"

If you think that the PS3 numbers are good after all Sony did last year, then frankly we have nothing more to discuss.  If the 360 had cut down to $149 and was performing in the same way I'd call it a disappointment like it is.

lol typical, completely ignoring the FACT that "ALL" that Sony did last year was in the last 4 months as the ps3 was getting destroyed in sales until the slim launch in september..........

 

and last time I checked the ps3 has outperformed last year by a margin...

 

 



AkibaFan said:
sw up too.

ff13 ps3 to 360 sales converging. i wudnt be surprised if xbox 360 outlegs ps3 4 the game.

lol that would not happen while i am still breathing lol.



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Aion said:
Wow come on Sony just sell the current psp's at a cheaper price.

we should see a price cut at E3.... if not then PSP can go to hell in NA.



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