why is this dumb thread still open? the troll that started this must be rolling in the floor laughing.
| archbrix said: I don't even know where to start; your post is so scattered and again does not address my point. Basically, you keep posting the same old arguments again and again, saying that me and "my mob" (funny) are knocking Nintendo for not having gone with more powerful hardware and that graphics are all that matter, something I've clearly disputed several times; talk about backpedaling and smoke and mirrors. You say I should read some posts before jumping in? Try reading mine before you respond with some ridiculous explanation. You obviously have no argument against my point, which was once again, Nintendo could make better looking games on even better hardware, period. Your completely off-topic responses shows what I'm dealing with, and that you are beyond reasoning. @Tube didn't shoot down my stance, instead he offered another perspective based off an example that was at least ON TOPIC. I'm done trying to explain one thing to someone who responds to something else entirely just to win an argument, with your edited f-bomb filled posts. Fortunately there are many Nintendo fans on this site who, like me, are interested in intelligent discussion, not stubborn to the point of pretending like they don't hear the other person...
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Don't make me laugh you simply refuse to see relevance because you've been shot down and now backpeddling on your original argument my post was on topic, choose not to see it if you want all I can say it'll be a unique way to save face in an argument you've sidestepped constantly and claim to be going offtopic when I don't fall for for your sidesteps especially this one your biggest sidestp of all, you also can't seem to read things in context as well hence your complaints of the F word. The last part of your post is the most ironic, you could of ended this simply by telling us what more poer would of added apart from graphical improvements as it stands you can't and have run off crying, just swallow your pride and move one you're done.
| oniyide said: @ghost of rungbang the variey thing, is your opinion, I dont think it has the most and no amount of essay will convince me otherwise, most new IPs? thats an interesting theory, I dont think so, as 3rd parties have introduced alot of new IPs some not appearing on Wii, I would love a list of thos IPs, most retro & PS2 ports??? thats true but I didnt buy a new console to play games from 2 gens back, especially 8 bucks for a SNES game, thats what emulators are for. Manhunt 2 is not even exclusive, and there are way more violent games than the ones you mentioned. (God of War 3 for example) Naruto, dragonball, TMNT??? how old are we???? they have naruto and dragonball games on every other system made and TMNT is fake Smash brawl. lets you download all kOF and SF games thats a damn lie. Alpha, street fighter 3, EX. I rather play Soul Calibur, Tekken, Street Fighter 4, BlazBlue, KOF 12(ok maybe not that one) MvsC 2 AND 3. YOUR OTHER POINTS WERE SPOT ON THOUGH |
You're probably right about the fighters. I like the Dragon Ball, Naruto, and TMNT games and I'm 27. I forgot about the Star Wars Soul Calibur game and BlazBlue though. Wii probably only has the most fighters if you include the Virtual Console.
You might not like all the old games, but they do help expand the library and flesh it out a bit, and they're a great selling point for people who don't know what emulators are. Having a single go-to machine for Wii Fit, Ocarina of Time, and River City Ransom is really convenient. And it's not just ports and re-releases. Wii gets upgrades like Resident Evil 4, Okami, Metroid Prime Trilogy, The Godfather, Bully, and Pikmin, and it even gets weird downgrades like Dead Rising: Chop Till You Drop and Dead Space Extraction. Wii even got a re-release of a Final Fantasy 4 sequel that was only available on Japanese cell phones. Wii's also bringing back a lot of dead franchises, like NiGHTS, Punch-Out!!, Sin and Punishment, Excite Bike, Blaster Master, Alien Crush, A Boy and His Blob, and NBA Jam. And now it's stealing big games like Monster Hunter mid-development.
God of War 3 doesn't even compare to Manhunt 2. God of War 3 didn't get banned and censored all over the world. Kratos never commits a murder so wrong and so disgusting that even he vomits immediately afterwards. You actually do that in Manhunt 2. It's also on PS2, PSP, and PC, but the Wii version's motion controls are the reason the game got banned and censored everywhere. They made it "the most realistic murder simulator of all time" according to Jack Thompson and the mainstream press. The Wii has the definitive version that got it on the news.
Wii definitely has the most new IPs and the most exclusives. These are all exclusives, and almost all new IPs, and this is only using the words "Sports," "Family," "Party," and "We."
Big Beach Sports, Celebrity Sports Showdown, Deca Sports, Deca Sports 2, EA Sports Active, Pool Revolution: Cue Sports, Wacky World of Sports, Water Sports, Wii Sports, Wii Sports Resort, Cosmic Family, Family & Friends Party, Family Glide Hockey, Family Mini Golf, Family Pirate Party, Family Slot Car Racing, Family Table Tennis, 5 Spots Party, Big Kahuna Party, Birthday Party Bash, Boom Blox Bash Party, Dance Dance Revolution Hottest Party, Dance Dance Revolution Hottest Party 2, Game Party, Imagine Fashion Party, Mario Party 8, Pong Toss! Frat Party Games, Pool Party, Tamagotchi: Party On!, Tetris Party, TV Show King Party, We Cheer, We Cheer 2, We Love Golf!, We Ski, We Ski & Snowboard, We Wish You a Merry Christmas.
That doesn't include individual sports games that don't have the word "Sports" in the title, like the several exclusive golf, fishing, racing, hunting, cheerleading, dancing, cooking, surgery, and competitive eating games. This also doesn't include the hardcore words like "Super," "Extreme," "Legend," and "Adventure."
@Wyrdness
Again, "more power adding more than better graphics" was never my argument. It was me disagreeing with you about "Mario would be exactly the same on PS3"; did you forget my first post or something? I'm certainly not "running off crying", I stand by my point. If Nintendo had decided to use more powerful hardware, Mario would have been designed accordingly. Maybe not NSMB, but 3D Mario imo would have, and when they do have more powerful hardware, it will continue to look better. Just like Galaxy was designed with the hardware they did choose in mind, the Wii. Looks good, no? And Mario Galaxy games on future hardware will look even better, just as Galaxy looks better than Sunshine.
@ ghost of Rubang, i see your point on the VC but IMO I dont really count those as part of the WII library, just like I dont count, any of the PS1 or LIVE arcade as part of PS3 and 360s library, but whatever. THe prices are jacked up and NInty really needs to put some more N64 games like yesterday. I know we're not getting perfect dark ever (well played MS) but give me something. I know WII has more exclusives I just wish companies would not just put out a hundred f*****ing party games. I mean I only need 2 max. Why the hell are there 5 diff. Cabela's deer hunter????
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Wii Sports = greatest game ever made ever. Better than Mario, Halo, MGS, Uncharted, Zelda, Metroid, Pokemon, etc
I think there is a good causal market on the ps3 and 360 but not nearly in the mass that is experienced on the wii
I read the first half a page and the last and I'm pretty sure I didn't miss much.
Nintendo didn't ruin this gen by now allowing a broad enough range of games on their system to suit your taste. If i was inclined to point fingers, I'd be looking at third parties who have, for the most part, refused to even give the Wii a chance.
Wii's system is underpowered because Nintendo couldn't afford to take a risk on both the controller and manufacturing a system with specs that led to exorbitant game development costs. Nintendo is a gaming company first and foremost and CAN'T afford to get into a pissing contest with much larger rivals who have multiple other revenue streams to back up any losses they make in their gaming divisions.
As for your claim that Nintendo's first party titles are lacking this generation due to hardware limitions, you are of course entitled to your opinion, but your opinion is crap and I feel confident that the general weight of opinion is with me on that one.
@hsrob my sentiments exactly this has made the most sense
| oniyide said: @killeryoshi several means more than 2, last I checked. and lets be real 3 and a half years is not the beginning, the first year is the beggining. a good console will last about 10 years max. You keep saying that standard controllers cannot do tilt and I keep saying SONY sixaxis has tilt without the add-on. so either your not reading the whole thing, just choosing to ignore it, or your fanboy is kicking in, you seem far to intelligent for that and im nostalgiac because i didnt like the way they made the game easier and took out features that I thought made the game better????? well im nostalgiac. On MC, THATS MY POINT Ninty and all devs should only use MC+ for now on(except fighters) They have 1, 1 game in the works that uses MC+(thats not Zelda) why would they not use something that makes the controls BETTER. Im just not understanding that. It should have controlled like that from the jump. I am waiting, if i wasnt I would have traded in my WII for 360 awhile ago |
While sony axis can do tilt. But is it seen as a feature that all games can use it? I don't think so. (atleast not be knowledge)
Yes they should only use Motion + because all games weren't made along with motion +. And sticking to only M+ would mean you have
to get everybody one. Not easy. Also not every game can utilize it yet. As we are late in the wii's cycle. So their would be no point.
Also if you want M+ so bad well you'll have to wait. Also not every game can be bundled with motion +
Also Motion + is a perphrial. So it isn't seen as what every game should have.
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