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killeryoshis said:
Galaxy wouldn't work as well on PS3 as wii. The motion controls are what make the game fun and its a experiance than can't work on PS3. Also the whole casual and hardcore split it a dumb phrase. What makes the 360 and PS3 more hardcore than wii?

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Shouldn't we be congratulating the OP? I mean... he'll probably get over 200 posts on his first thread XD Shouldn't that be an achievement or something?



Tuganuno said:

Shouldn't we be congratulating the OP? I mean... he'll probably get over 200 posts on his first thread XD Shouldn't that be an achievement or something?

lol wait a minute this is his first thread? well that explains alot




scottie said:
Mummelmann said:
Genres are being killed or warped into something unrecognizable for the sole purpose of catering to those who wouldn't normally like them. I'm still waiting for RPG's to be torn apart and become nothing but a shadow of its former self.

 

Ooh, Ooh, a diamond in the rough - sorry for the double post, but it's not as if I can be doing any harm to this wonderful thread :P

 

I actually think the twisting of RPGs has begun, and (I know a lot of people won't want to hear this) I think FFXIII is a culprit. I think the only properly controlling one and being able to give tasks to others is a step away from what I would consider to be the purest form of RPGing, and I think that it was in order to appeal to people who think RPGs are too slow and boring. Good news for those who think RPGs are slow and boring I suppose, but bad news for me

Oh I hear you, and I agree completely. FFXIII and ME2 are the prime examples of watered down RPG's, they are shedding a lot of in depth RPG elements in favor of near pure action elements, effectively taking a step away from the genre as a whole. I'm not saying that all RPG's should follow a set recipe (like most shooters do), that's shooting oneself in the foot if I ever saw it but molding something into an unrecognizable lump is a bad idea. I like variety in games, there's nothing worse than playing several games within one genre that feel the exact same, it gets boring fast but I wish that some things would remain somewhat holy and one of those things is the RPG. The whole point of an RPG is creating and guiding a persona with stats, items and a life filled with adventure and interaction so trying to make it more like God of War seems counterintuitive to me.

What if they started removing features and elements from racing simulators so you could only steer or control the brakes and throttle while the CPU did the rest? Wouldn't that make the entire game worthless in the end? Games are about interaction so removing that from the most interaction heavy genre seems entirely backwards. I fear we will never see another Baldur's Gate II (some say Dragon Age is such a game but I disagree) and that the RPG's of the future may very well revolve around staring at a screen while the CPU simulates battles and tells you the outcome via fancy, flashy effects and sounds and the occassional cutscene dividing the tedium every now and then.



Tuganuno said:

Shouldn't we be congratulating the OP? I mean... he'll probably get over 200 posts on his first thread XD Shouldn't that be an achievement or something?

He's getting mad VG$ at least...



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Mr Khan said:
Tuganuno said:

Shouldn't we be congratulating the OP? I mean... he'll probably get over 200 posts on his first thread XD Shouldn't that be an achievement or something?

He's getting mad VG$ at least...

Well, if his posts are going to be just as polemical as this thread is, then the money will be very useful to him lol Wait... Has he been using us to get VG$? :o



oniyide said:
@dahuman Wii has more variety??? I think the entire fighting genre would disagree with you. There lacking big time on that system and WRPGs for that matter but everything else is golden

Yes Wii has the most variety.

It's lacking in a few genres, but it does absolutely dominate almost all of the rest.

 

Wii has the most new IPs, the most retro re-releases/re-makes/sequels (Virtual Console and stuff like the new Blaster Master and Dr. Mario on WiiWare), the most platformers, the most local multiplayer games, the most motion controlled games, the most IR-controlled games, the most balance-controlled games, the most joystick-controlled games, the most exercise games, the most dance games, the most party games, the most PS2 ports, the most PC ports, the most backwards compatibility of this gen, the most ultraviolent murder games (Manhunt 2, No More Heroes, No More Heroes 2, MadWorld), the most zombie games, the most music games, the most brain training games, the most trivia games, the most sports games, the most mini-games, the most on-rail shooters, and it's about to get the world's first zombie game that lets you kill zombies with a guitar controller.

Regarding fighters, it has the most successful fighting game of all time (Smash Bros. Brawl), Naruto games, Dragon Ball games, the exclusive TMNT Smash-Up, the exclusive Tatsunoko vs. Capcom, and the only version of Mortal Kombat to have every single MK character ever created (there's one Nintendo-exclusive MK character that's only on the N64 and the Wii).  It even lets you download all the old Street Fighters and Neo Geo fighters.  Wii Sports boxing and Wii Sports Resort kendo are probably more popular than any fighting game ever made now anyway.  And Tournament of Legends is another exclusive fighter coming out pretty soon that looks kind of interesting and chaotic.  It probably has the most exclusive fighters since the HD systems share most of their games.

 

Sorry for the wallotext!



oniyide said:
@killeryoshi we are NOT at the beginning, the Wii has been out for several years and has only shown slight improvement. tilt tech????? are you joking???? the sixaxis already does that dumb crap, hell a couple of Gameboy games did that. DOnt get me started on Mario Kart Wii I hated the way they dumb that game down. Ill stick to Double Dash

I notice u keep saying IF, thats my point If, they have not gotten there yet, IMHO Ninty isnt really trying to do anymore with MC, they seem content with the way it is now. I know for a fact 3rd parties arent trying. Quite a few recent games that have just come out support standard controls, either jump headlong into MC or dont jump in at all, go hard or go home

I would like to ask how 3 years and a half is several years. Also yes we are just beginging. When NES came out. All it
had was 2 buttons and a D-pad. Though you ask your self. Why not use a joystick? Well when next generation started.
No game could be done on a Atari Joy stick. That's what will happen next gen.

Tilting controls have been done before. Though never have they been part of a large game like NSMBW. They cannont be done
on a standered controller without a add on. That was my point Also if you want to say mario kart wii is dumbed down. REALLY
needs to take off those nolstalgia glasses

As for the if. Nintendo can't really go anymore foreward with motion controls right now unless they use M+. But that's a add on.
Also it cam out less than a year ago. You have to wait. There games take 2-3 years to make.  When Super Wii comes out.
PS3 and 360 will look primative. Just like the SNES made Atari controls look primative.



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Oh, gosh, this is some thread!

Logical arguments aside, why are you people even discussing anything here? This thread makes absolutely no sense to begin with, why try and justify something? You're just wasting a lot of time that you could use for something FUN.

With every coming day, I lose more and more hope in this community.