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Kasz216 on 20 April 2010
ameratsu said:
According to AJE, eruptions from the volcano have intensified in the past few hours, putting the plan to reopen airspace in doubt.

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/europe/2010/04/201042044927358604.html

Well... that stinks.



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Kasz216 on 20 April 2010

A small number of flights have taken off in northern Europe after five days of inactivity caused by the spread of volcanic ash from Iceland.

The Eurocontrol air traffic agency says it expects up to 60% of flights over Europe to go ahead on Tuesday.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8631238.stm



NJ5 on 20 April 2010
Kasz216 said:
A small number of flights have taken off in northern Europe after five days of inactivity caused by the spread of volcanic ash from Iceland.

The Eurocontrol air traffic agency says it expects up to 60% of flights over Europe to go ahead on Tuesday.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8631238.stm

Over here in Sweden it doesn't look anything like 60% ...

International arrivals/departures at the biggest airport:

http://arlanda.se/sv/Information--tjanster-till/Resenar/AnkomsterAvgangar/Utrikes-ankomster/

http://arlanda.se/sv/Information--tjanster-till/Resenar/AnkomsterAvgangar/Utrikes-avgangar/

Inställd means cancelled.

 



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SamuelRSmith on 20 April 2010
mrstickball said:

 

Very well then. At losing $200m a day, they are already up to what? A billion USD now? What if this persists for weeks? months? A year? Do you realize that entire sectors could collapse, including food shortages in the UK. Now, since your in Portugal, you should fare well, but for the other parts of Europe....This could be disasterous.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying they should just throw aircraft up there in hopes that they get through. I'm just saying that every EU country needs to scramble to figure out how to establish a proper countermeasure to ensure some air travel goes on, despite this, or else it could get really bad.

Food shortages in the UK?

CEO of Tesco: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8631426.stm

"Less than one percent of supplies comes by air, and that tends to be flowers and some produce" He also goes on to say that for this 1% the air freight has been diverted to Spain, where it then makes the rest of the journey via road/canal, etc.



Kantor on 20 April 2010

The volcano doesn't have to stop for the airspace to be opened. It just has to stop shooting ash 30,000 feet into the air.



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Scoobes on 20 April 2010

So, last time this volcano erupted it carried on for about 3yrs... fun... We might need to start using the ole' silk road again.




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mrstickball on 20 April 2010
SamuelRSmith said:
mrstickball said:

 

Very well then. At losing $200m a day, they are already up to what? A billion USD now? What if this persists for weeks? months? A year? Do you realize that entire sectors could collapse, including food shortages in the UK. Now, since your in Portugal, you should fare well, but for the other parts of Europe....This could be disasterous.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying they should just throw aircraft up there in hopes that they get through. I'm just saying that every EU country needs to scramble to figure out how to establish a proper countermeasure to ensure some air travel goes on, despite this, or else it could get really bad.

Food shortages in the UK?

CEO of Tesco: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8631426.stm

"Less than one percent of supplies comes by air, and that tends to be flowers and some produce" He also goes on to say that for this 1% the air freight has been diverted to Spain, where it then makes the rest of the journey via road/canal, etc.

Certain kinds of food shortages. Kenya is losing millions of USD because they can't send their produce to Europe:

http://www1.voanews.com/english/news/africa/east/Kenya-Losing-Millions-as-Volcano-Grounds-Flights-91522474.html



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NJ5 on 20 April 2010
kowenicki said:
I'm going on holiday in 6 weeks... !! lol so it better not last too long.

I think it will be over soon and tbh I think its overkill anyway... just get those flights going for god sake. British Airways sent a test flight up yesterday and flew through the cloud.. zero issues.

And other flights (particularly Finnish and NATO jets) had problems. A few flights don't prove anything.

 



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ameratsu on 20 April 2010
kowenicki said:
I'm going on holiday in 6 weeks... !! lol so it better not last too long.

I think it will be over soon and tbh I think its overkill anyway... just get those flights going for god sake. British Airways sent a test flight up yesterday and flew through the cloud.. zero issues.

 

As I posted earlier, I've read that even fairly brief exposure to ash could cause problems with the reliability of plane engines. While they are able fly now without falling out of the sky, airlines may run the risk of greatly reducing the reliability of their aircraft by flying in some areas now.



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NJ5 on 22 April 2010

It's perfectly safe to fly, pay no attention to the pilot who smelled ash, reported an engine fault and aborted a flight today:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/article-1267966/Iceland-volcano-Thomas-Cook-rescue-flight-Crete-aborted-pilot-smells-ash.html

"Thomas Cook rescue flight to Crete aborted after pilot reported 'smell of ash' and engine fault"

 



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