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Its a marriage of convenience lol. I mean the Wii has more than double the install base of PS3 and over 30m more units than the 360. The only way for some of these folks to have any solice whatsoever is to combine the sales of both platforms (even if they favor one over the other or completely hate the other HD console) To make themselves feel better about the domination of an underpowered 'casual' system over the multimedia hd systems.

This stuff doesn't bother me at all..at least not anymore. You get used to the hypocrisies and double talk. Its to the point where its entertainment and nothing more. Like the whole PS3 shortages..Its real because Sony is trying to appease all of this unbelievable demand! Yet the Wii, during their shortages was being manufactured by Nintendo to create more demand (as if that makes any business sense) and the Wii was selling twice that the PS3 is. Motion Controls a gimmick until the competition reveals theirs. Now its the bees knees.

And in this case, the whole NMH game..Its sold like crap on evey single system in Japan. But the sales are a flop on Wii but magically its "not bad considering" Fans of the HD consoles want to highlight a game on Wii not selling, blame it on the consumer and the system, but when a game flops on the HD consoles, its either because 'the competition is tougher' or the game sucked plain and simple.

Then if a game sells on Wii that is Mature it no longer counts because its part of a well known franchise lol. Yet most games that sell in general are part of a well known franchise. I love the theatre. Just enjoy the show my friend. There are much more important things to worry about than videogames..At least imo..But then again I'm just a casual gamer.



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Boutros said:
Khuutra said:
Boutros said:
We don't compare the consoles, we compare the games.

Who's "we" in this context?

Well the ones he's accusing in the OP.

 

Let's take the example of the upcoming Prince of Persia. The game is different on all consoles except on PS3 and 360 where they are the same. So the sales should be considered differently on PS3 and 360 even though it's the same game?

Don't the two userbases have different buying habits?



Khuutra said:
Boutros said:
Khuutra said:
Boutros said:
We don't compare the consoles, we compare the games.

Who's "we" in this context?

Well the ones he's accusing in the OP.

 

Let's take the example of the upcoming Prince of Persia. The game is different on all consoles except on PS3 and 360 where they are the same. So the sales should be considered differently on PS3 and 360 even though it's the same game?

Don't the two userbases have different buying habits?

Not that much no.

 

Would you seperate the sales of a game available on PC and Mac?



Boutros said:
Khuutra said:

Don't the two userbases have different buying habits?

Not that much no.

 

Would you seperate the sales of a game available on PC and Mac?

Yes. Yes I would. My question was actually meant rhetorically, because the two userbases do have different buying habits.



Khuutra said:
Boutros said:
Khuutra said:

Don't the two userbases have different buying habits?

Not that much no.

 

Would you seperate the sales of a game available on PC and Mac?

Yes. Yes I would. My question was actually meant rhetorically, because the two userbases do have different buying habits.

How do you explain this then:

http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=24231 VS http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=24232

or this:

http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=20033 VS http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=20031

or this:

http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=35153 VS http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=35152

or this:

http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=28959 VS http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=28960

or this:

http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=25780 VS http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=25779

or this:

http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=25384 VS http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=25383

or this:

http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=30701 VS http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=30702



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But HD is the industry leader.

It has sold over 50% of all consoles this generation after all.



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Khuutra said:
Boutros said:
Khuutra said:
Boutros said:
We don't compare the consoles, we compare the games.

Who's "we" in this context?

Well the ones he's accusing in the OP.

 

Let's take the example of the upcoming Prince of Persia. The game is different on all consoles except on PS3 and 360 where they are the same. So the sales should be considered differently on PS3 and 360 even though it's the same game?

Don't the two userbases have different buying habits?

Generally no. A hit on one HD console is usually a hit on the other. They both have an edge when it comes to certain genres, but I'd say their buying habits are more similar than different.

 



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Khuutra said:
Boutros said:
Khuutra said:

Don't the two userbases have different buying habits?

Not that much no.

 

Would you seperate the sales of a game available on PC and Mac?

Yes. Yes I would. My question was actually meant rhetorically, because the two userbases do have different buying habits.

So following that line of thought, World of Warcraft reaching a record number of 11.5 million players is a less relevant statistic than noting that it reached 10 million PC users?  Talking about a game's overall success somehow diminishes or insults the individual platforms it's available on?

I think the context is key...  I've never seen an article talking about the success of World of Warcraft, that bothers with how many players it has on a given platform.



 

Boutros said:

How do you explain this then:

http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=24231 VS http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=24232

or this:

http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=20033 VS http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=20031

or this:

http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=35153 VS http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=35152

or this:

http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=28959 VS http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=28960

or this:

http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=25780 VS http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=25779

or this:

http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=25384 VS http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=25383

or this:

http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=30701 VS http://www.vgchartz.com/games/game.php?id=30702

When games sell nearly the same on userbases that different, it does suggest that the userbases have different buying habits.



Alic0004 said:
Khuutra said:

Yes. Yes I would. My question was actually meant rhetorically, because the two userbases do have different buying habits.

So following that line of thought, World of Warcraft reaching a record number of 11.5 million players is a less relevant statistic than noting that it reached 10 million PC users?  Talking about a game's overall success somehow diminishes or insults the individual platforms it's available on?

I think the context is key...  I've never seen an article talking about the success of World of Warcraft, that bothers with how many players it has on a given platform.

I'm not playing down the relevance of statistics, only pointing out that the two userbases have different buying habits. Not to take away from the sales of multiplat games or anything.