eproductwars....well yeah the HDDVD has been selling well for the last week, but how long can Tosh keep up the promo? Aren't they giving out a few more HD-DVDs for each player this week? I guess money must grow on trees for Toshiba.

Things looking bad for hd dvd? Last i heard most execs (sony included) said that they entered a stalemate. I don't know about using blu ray as pc storage, it's not cheap enough right now. I would wager that flash memory could become a new/old cheap way os storing lots of memory.

The 40g was a huge blow to HD-DVD. Basically what happened is that Sony has made a cheap cheap PS3 that people around the world will buy, so they've effectively cut the cost to make the PS3, which brings a BD player in for a lot cheaper than usual. In fact HDDVD doesn't really have anything to counter this with, the only reason why they are doing good right now on eproductwars.com/ is b/c of a temporary promotion that isn't possible to sustain. For anybody supporting HD-DVD is there anything else that can possibly save HD-DVD?

Well, movies obviously. And while i agree that the PS3 is the cheapest blu ray player, you forget that it still costs more than a stand alone hd dvd player. A new A3 toshiba model costs....299$ if i remeber correctly, feel free to bash me if i'm mistaken.

No bashing needed, but what I mean is that if the Bd has been gaining ground, what could possibly reverse this trend? Why will HD-DVD stop losing and start winning?

I am sure Toshiba can sustain a promotion for as long as they want, what with the gobs of royalty money that pours in monthly from the original DVD. Why do you guys think Sony wanted in on the action? They didn't want other people getting royalty that they felt they should be getting, for whatever reason...and then there as BLU!!! Seriously though, there is not going to be super HD like you say ssj12, atleast not in the near future, and by the time there is, it won't be coming out on BD discs, that is a guarantee. So all those 100-200gb BD discs are going to be useless, because flash memory is going to be the new thing for storage...read times from BD discs cant compare to HDs, HDs can't even hold a stick to flash. It just doesn't make sense to keep developing these high capacity BD discs when there is going to be absolutely no use for them, because they will be too costly when they come out, and when they are cheap, they won't even be considered, because they will be too slow and not as cheap as the next viable alternative.

But Tosh hasn't been doing well profitwise lately.  It is about 15% smaller than Sony, which means that it just won't have as much $$$ to bring to the table, and it had a profit margin of about 2.5% versus sony's 3.5% for the most recent quarter as far as I can remember.  So all in all, they just won't have the resources that they need to have a long format war, not that sony will either but Tosh has a lot less in the gas tank and worse performing engine at that if you don't mind me using a car analogy.

 actually even flash emmory is being phased out. lol becasue right now Solid State Drives which are based on falsh technology cost over $750 for a 16GB drive. Right now electron drives are being developed and even though a single drive is predicted to cost $1.5k the drive will have unlimited space ie cant fill the darn thing up if you tried and downlaod the internet 100000 times without noticing a single thing. 

 Also Toshiba only recieves royalties from HD-DVD and their own DVD players, and TVs.

Yeah, but even with all of this $$$ coming in their profit margin is a lot less, meaning the whole machine is less efficient, and they are about 15% smaller. It's like a 200 lb titleholding boxer going up against a 170lb guy that is ranked somewhere in the top 20 when the titleholder has a lot more people in his corner and the other guy has mabey a few. Not saying that the other guy can't win....but it doesn't seem logical at least to me.