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I will never understand people like Kotick. You have a division that is bringing you a significant profit and instead of rewarding your employees and continuing to reap the rewards, you screw them over. You think after he ruined Tony Hawk and Guitar Hero he would have wised up. From now on the definition of "fool" should include Bobby Kotick as an example.



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The Ghost of RubangB said:
Kasz216 said:
Are the people who are blaming Activision even paying attention to the Lawsuits?

The people who were fired totally deserved it for breaking contract.

It doesn't really matter.  The will of the people is with the guys who made the game, not the guys who put their name on it, made the commercials, and took all the money.  Even if the good guys made a horrible illegal mistake, they're still the good guys here.  Now they're the new rockstars of FPS games, like id, Rare, and Valve before them, and they have one of the greatest development contracts ever, with EA, who will now be the new good guys too.  This is awesome to watch happen, and I don't even like Call of Duty.

Excellent post, sums my thoughts up perfectly.



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The Ghost of RubangB said:
Kasz216 said:
Are the people who are blaming Activision even paying attention to the Lawsuits?

The people who were fired totally deserved it for breaking contract.

It doesn't really matter.  The will of the people is with the guys who made the game, not the guys who put their name on it, made the commercials, and took all the money.  Even if the good guys made a horrible illegal mistake, they're still the good guys here.  Now they're the new rockstars of FPS games, like id, Rare, and Valve before them, and they have one of the greatest development contracts ever, with EA, who will now be the new good guys too.  This is awesome to watch happen, and I don't even like Call of Duty.

That's a bizare setiment... espiecally coming from you.

You're basically argueing that if you are talented you should be able to get away with anything you want.

Nevermind that... the guys who made the commercials and put their name on it were a BIG reason for Modern Warfares success as well.  Without them IW would of never had the money to make such games.



Kasz216 said:
thelifatree said:
When it's your company, everything under you is your fault. Everyone makes mistakes. (Activision) But, the employees besides Zampella and is partner who breached their may or may not have breached their contracts. the ones under them, programmers etc. Why would or should they stay with infinity ward if EA would treat them better? Regardless of whether Zamplella was recruiting. Activision if they thought the team was important should have made them an offer they couldnt refuse.

And if Activision doesn't think they need them, thats fine too.

If you ask me, because I wouldn't trust working for people with so low moral character as to stop doing their job just so they could better recruit me to their next job.  How can I trust people like that?

I agree with you, but see, this puts the boss in a pickle

A) they shouldn't have hired or Activision should monitored them better, but would MW2 selling 20 million have still happened.


B) you let them run around like wild animals and give them raises and hope mw3 sells a bazillion.

 

C) You just atomic bomb the place that sold 20 mill COD, and let the other studios do the future one.

 

All I'm saying is Activision Screwed up. I'm not saying Zampella's a good guy or anything. But most big companies screw up sometimes... it's just if it becomes a common occurence.



great now that those 2 have started a completely new company known as respawn , they can start to make different games .

i have a great idea for their first game , absolutely anything but a freaking military fps, but something deep down inside me just knows exactly what EA and respawn are going to make , its going to be a military fps.

they wanna bring activision down and EA is dying for a cod clone, i kinda believe (or hope) that people are getting burned out by your typical fps games , i honestly have trouble playing them now im so tired and bored by them they make me sick of gaming almost.



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This studio gave us the most successful modern franchise on consoles not called Wii or Pokemon. They deserved leniancy, who knows what will happen now, this is a disaster.



All hail the KING, Andrespetmonkey

Kasz216 said:
The Ghost of RubangB said:
Kasz216 said:
Are the people who are blaming Activision even paying attention to the Lawsuits?

The people who were fired totally deserved it for breaking contract.

It doesn't really matter.  The will of the people is with the guys who made the game, not the guys who put their name on it, made the commercials, and took all the money.  Even if the good guys made a horrible illegal mistake, they're still the good guys here.  Now they're the new rockstars of FPS games, like id, Rare, and Valve before them, and they have one of the greatest development contracts ever, with EA, who will now be the new good guys too.  This is awesome to watch happen, and I don't even like Call of Duty.

That's a bizare setiment... espiecally coming from you.

You're basically argueing that if you are talented you should be able to get away with anything you want.

Nevermind that... the guys who made the commercials and put their name on it were a BIG reason for Modern Warfares success as well.  Without them IW would of never had the money to make such games.

But they're not getting away with it.  They got fired.  And their contract lets Activision keep all the money anyway.  They weren't in a position to demand more money or a better contract then, but they are now, so getting fired is actually great news.  Their new contract is really amazing.  It's like when the first musicians got to own their own songs and keep their own royalties.

And Activision lost the best tagline for their new games: "from the creators of the biggest FPS of all time."  So Activision may have a billion dollars, but I'm starting to think they got the short end of the stick.



rip IW

lost but not forgotten




At this point the spirtual successor to MW2 will be released by EA. I can't believe Activision was stupid enough to kill a billion dollar franchise. It's just mind blowing.



The Ghost of RubangB said:
Kasz216 said:
The Ghost of RubangB said:
Kasz216 said:
Are the people who are blaming Activision even paying attention to the Lawsuits?

The people who were fired totally deserved it for breaking contract.

It doesn't really matter.  The will of the people is with the guys who made the game, not the guys who put their name on it, made the commercials, and took all the money.  Even if the good guys made a horrible illegal mistake, they're still the good guys here.  Now they're the new rockstars of FPS games, like id, Rare, and Valve before them, and they have one of the greatest development contracts ever, with EA, who will now be the new good guys too.  This is awesome to watch happen, and I don't even like Call of Duty.

That's a bizare setiment... espiecally coming from you.

You're basically argueing that if you are talented you should be able to get away with anything you want.

Nevermind that... the guys who made the commercials and put their name on it were a BIG reason for Modern Warfares success as well.  Without them IW would of never had the money to make such games.

But they're not getting away with it.  They got fired.  And their contract lets Activision keep all the money anyway.  They weren't in a position to demand more money or a better contract then, but they are now, so getting fired is actually great news.  Their new contract is really amazing.  It's like when the first musicians got to own their own songs and keep their own royalties.

And Activision lost the best tagline for their new games: "from the creators of the biggest FPS of all time."  So Activision may have a billion dollars, but I'm starting to think they got the short end of the stick.

Ok, i'll rephrase, you think it's a good idea that talented people get rewarded for being unethical and not holding up to the terms of their contract.

Quite honestly if the court finds them guilty can only hope Activision wins and gets awarded damages... which considering how much the last modern warfare I assume would be quite high.  You shouldn't be rewarded for illegal activities and breaking contracts.