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themanwithnoname on 16 April 2010
FranTic91 said:
zgamer5 said:
selnor said:
flowjo said:
tuscaniman said:
flowjo said:
lol alan wake doesnt even look that good , what a joke thread.

the first uncharted still looks better and there still isnt anything on the 360 that even comes close to killzone 2 or mgs4 , the sad part about this is that 360 fanboys actually think alan wake is raising the visual bar , reality is we all see the in game graphics , the lighting is nice everything else is very standard nothing blew me away at all .

I noticed you put that you own a 360. I highly doubt you do and if you do why do you try your hardest to bash it? Alan Wake does look that good and it does compare you the best of the PS3. If it didn't then we wouldn't even be having this discussion would we?

i do have a 360 flowjo69 gamertag lol,  but im not at all biased about it , i know that the ps3 is an overall more powerful rendering machine plus it has bluray which makes for much larger games , see i know alan wake looks good but i also know that it doesnt look better than even the first uncharted which was in 2007 and uncharted 2 looks leagues better than the first so im trying my hardest not to post about these blatant biased views but its really hard when i know its not the truth .


So your so confident you'll bet control over your sig for a year that Alan Wake gets critical acclaim from more than 10 reviewers it is best graphics this gen?

look i'm not here to bash or anythign but he makes a point, the PS3 does have more power then the 360, does it seem logical that Alan wake will have better visuals then GOW3? if it came in 2012 it would probably have, but let's face it, it wont. good graphics the best on the 360 probably. GOW3 had a bigger budget, a bigger staff, and they worked on it longer then Alan Wake. Yes you can take in the quality of the work. Seriously a Santa Monica Studiois vs Remedy. we all know what the answer is. let's not get over ourselves. Saying Gears of War 3 will have better graphics then UC2, and KZ2, is logical and it will probably happen. But Alan Wake no offense but it's usually the "big" and hyped games which break records visually.

LOL

Remedy showed off the first trailer for Alan Wake and some tech demos before God of War 2 was even released.

Please! Wikipedia exists! You're posting on the internet, which is just one big database of databases, if you're going to make such a statement...know what you're talking about.

 


And if you wanna get technical, Alan Wake was announced a few months after the first God of War was released.



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FranTic91 on 16 April 2010
themanwithnoname said:
FranTic91 said:
zgamer5 said:
selnor said:
flowjo said:
tuscaniman said:
flowjo said:
lol alan wake doesnt even look that good , what a joke thread.

the first uncharted still looks better and there still isnt anything on the 360 that even comes close to killzone 2 or mgs4 , the sad part about this is that 360 fanboys actually think alan wake is raising the visual bar , reality is we all see the in game graphics , the lighting is nice everything else is very standard nothing blew me away at all .

I noticed you put that you own a 360. I highly doubt you do and if you do why do you try your hardest to bash it? Alan Wake does look that good and it does compare you the best of the PS3. If it didn't then we wouldn't even be having this discussion would we?

i do have a 360 flowjo69 gamertag lol,  but im not at all biased about it , i know that the ps3 is an overall more powerful rendering machine plus it has bluray which makes for much larger games , see i know alan wake looks good but i also know that it doesnt look better than even the first uncharted which was in 2007 and uncharted 2 looks leagues better than the first so im trying my hardest not to post about these blatant biased views but its really hard when i know its not the truth .


So your so confident you'll bet control over your sig for a year that Alan Wake gets critical acclaim from more than 10 reviewers it is best graphics this gen?

look i'm not here to bash or anythign but he makes a point, the PS3 does have more power then the 360, does it seem logical that Alan wake will have better visuals then GOW3? if it came in 2012 it would probably have, but let's face it, it wont. good graphics the best on the 360 probably. GOW3 had a bigger budget, a bigger staff, and they worked on it longer then Alan Wake. Yes you can take in the quality of the work. Seriously a Santa Monica Studiois vs Remedy. we all know what the answer is. let's not get over ourselves. Saying Gears of War 3 will have better graphics then UC2, and KZ2, is logical and it will probably happen. But Alan Wake no offense but it's usually the "big" and hyped games which break records visually.

LOL

Remedy showed off the first trailer for Alan Wake and some tech demos before God of War 2 was even released.

Please! Wikipedia exists! You're posting on the internet, which is just one big database of databases, if you're going to make such a statement...know what you're talking about.

 


And if you wanna get technical, Alan Wake was announced a few months after the first God of War was released.

Daaaaaamn!

This dude just got tag-team pwned! lol

Thanks for your contribution, sir.



slowmo on 16 April 2010
whatever said:
slowmo said:
The article is well written and accurate, such a shame his opinion on how good Alan Wake is will be the only thing people cannot get past. At the end of the day its just his opinion so no point just ripping on the article for that point.

The people saying the article writer is a xbox fanboy should be banned from this site, you're the worst kind of poster on here. Anything that doesn't praise the PS3 to hilt gets branded a biased site on here and its getting very old and its about time the mod team clamped down on the bullshit.

So if he is a fanboy, people shouldn't be allowed to talk about it???  That's the silliest comment I've seen here in a while.  Anyone can go read his other articles and decide for themselves.  I have no interest in doing this as I have better things to do with my time.  But if others go read the articles and want to post there impressions here, they should be free to do so.

No he isn't a fanboy, do you bother to read posts or just get all defensive and dramatic when people try to stop you trolling.

He has an opinion that a game looks better on the 360 than some on the PS3 (which is completely subjective), that doesn't make HIM a fanboy because his opinion differs to yours.  Get over yourself already and stop acting like a primary school child.



slowmo on 16 April 2010
Booh! said:
Darc Requiem said:
XxXProphecyXxX said:
......are you serious? 360 actually had it good with multiplat Just look @ the bad ports ps3 had compared to it's exclusives, I'd say its more like multiplatform engines didn't do ps3 justice IMO.

Well someone didn't read the thread topic. You may want to go back and read the OP. Be sure to pull your foot out of your mouth first

I read the OP:

1) He fails to mention that games like Halo 3, Fable II, Too Human, Banjo-Kazooie, Forza 3 or Dead Rising are not better than their multiplat counterparts (graphically speaking).

2) He talks about a game that is not out yet.

1. Halo 3 was a modified Halo 2 engine, not developed from the ground up.  Fable II was a new engine that was built but not fully matured, it was still very pretty though so not sure what you're issue is (also Fable 3 should really show that engine off properly).  Forza 3 looks amazing, the new engine is a huge step.  Banjo Kazooie is a again a pretty game and uses advanced techniques such as tesselation but is hardly the sort of game that will be on contention for graphics king.  Too Human was a multiplatform engine, same with Dead Rising.

What is your point exactly, none of those games had 3-4 year development cycles and huge budgets?

2. He has seen the game in action I gather from what I read, you haven't, which instantly makes his opinion far more valid than yours on the subject.

 

 

@CGI - I don't know why we bother posting any articles that post the 360 in a good light, there is too many Sony trolls on this board and the mods will do nothing yet again.



slowmo on 17 April 2010
CGI-Quality said:
slowmo said:
Booh! said:
Darc Requiem said:
XxXProphecyXxX said:
......are you serious? 360 actually had it good with multiplat Just look @ the bad ports ps3 had compared to it's exclusives, I'd say its more like multiplatform engines didn't do ps3 justice IMO.

Well someone didn't read the thread topic. You may want to go back and read the OP. Be sure to pull your foot out of your mouth first

I read the OP:

1) He fails to mention that games like Halo 3, Fable II, Too Human, Banjo-Kazooie, Forza 3 or Dead Rising are not better than their multiplat counterparts (graphically speaking).

2) He talks about a game that is not out yet.

1. Halo 3 was a modified Halo 2 engine, not developed from the ground up.  Fable II was a new engine that was built but not fully matured, it was still very pretty though so not sure what you're issue is (also Fable 3 should really show that engine off properly).  Forza 3 looks amazing, the new engine is a huge step.  Banjo Kazooie is a again a pretty game and uses advanced techniques such as tesselation but is hardly the sort of game that will be on contention for graphics king.  Too Human was a multiplatform engine, same with Dead Rising.

What is your point exactly, none of those games had 3-4 year development cycles and huge budgets?

2. He has seen the game in action I gather from what I read, you haven't, which instantly makes his opinion far more valid than yours on the subject.

 

 

@CGI - I don't know why we bother posting any articles that post the 360 in a good light, there is too many Sony trolls on this board and the mods will do nothing yet again.

I tried.

I think it was a very good and balanced effort, unfortunately Selnor cursed the thread when he entered the debate.  As much as I appreciate the effort Selnor goes to paint the 360 in a good light, he does tend to attract trolls like moths to a flame.  Mind you the trouble started befoe Selnor posted (yes before the end of the first page!).



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Pilat on 17 April 2010
slowmo said:
Booh! said:
Darc Requiem said:
XxXProphecyXxX said:
......are you serious? 360 actually had it good with multiplat Just look @ the bad ports ps3 had compared to it's exclusives, I'd say its more like multiplatform engines didn't do ps3 justice IMO.

Well someone didn't read the thread topic. You may want to go back and read the OP. Be sure to pull your foot out of your mouth first

I read the OP:

1) He fails to mention that games like Halo 3, Fable II, Too Human, Banjo-Kazooie, Forza 3 or Dead Rising are not better than their multiplat counterparts (graphically speaking).

2) He talks about a game that is not out yet.

1. Halo 3 was a modified Halo 2 engine, not developed from the ground up.  Fable II was a new engine that was built but not fully matured, it was still very pretty though so not sure what you're issue is (also Fable 3 should really show that engine off properly).  Forza 3 looks amazing, the new engine is a huge step.  Banjo Kazooie is a again a pretty game and uses advanced techniques such as tesselation but is hardly the sort of game that will be on contention for graphics king.  Too Human was a multiplatform engine, same with Dead Rising.

What is your point exactly, none of those games had 3-4 year development cycles and huge budgets?

2. He has seen the game in action I gather from what I read, you haven't, which instantly makes his opinion far more valid than yours on the subject.

 

 

@CGI - I don't know why we bother posting any articles that post the 360 in a good light, there is too many Sony trolls on this board and the mods will do nothing yet again.

1.then your best just don't good enough

Halo≠ huge budgets :/

2. He has seen the game in action I gather from what I read

good see not troll person on vgchartz



Darc Requiem on 17 April 2010

Positive 360 news is like a bridge, as soon as you post it. Trolls appear under it.



nitekrawler1285 on 17 April 2010

It would make sense that games on engines developed specifically for the console will generally look and perform better.



Hynad on 17 April 2010

The reason why the article attracts so many trolls in the first place is because it is one-sided in the first place.  The title is only considering one console in the argument.

 

But, we all know that multi-platform engines don't do any of the console's Justice.


A short trek in time will remind you how poorly those engines were doing for the PS3, while we all know what the PS3 is truly capable of when you see the exclusive titles.

The same can be said about the 360, but let's be honest, it didn't suffer nearly as much from those engines as the PS3 did.



slowmo on 17 April 2010
Pilat said:
slowmo said:
Booh! said:
Darc Requiem said:
XxXProphecyXxX said:
......are you serious? 360 actually had it good with multiplat Just look @ the bad ports ps3 had compared to it's exclusives, I'd say its more like multiplatform engines didn't do ps3 justice IMO.

Well someone didn't read the thread topic. You may want to go back and read the OP. Be sure to pull your foot out of your mouth first

I read the OP:

1) He fails to mention that games like Halo 3, Fable II, Too Human, Banjo-Kazooie, Forza 3 or Dead Rising are not better than their multiplat counterparts (graphically speaking).

2) He talks about a game that is not out yet.

1. Halo 3 was a modified Halo 2 engine, not developed from the ground up.  Fable II was a new engine that was built but not fully matured, it was still very pretty though so not sure what you're issue is (also Fable 3 should really show that engine off properly).  Forza 3 looks amazing, the new engine is a huge step.  Banjo Kazooie is a again a pretty game and uses advanced techniques such as tesselation but is hardly the sort of game that will be on contention for graphics king.  Too Human was a multiplatform engine, same with Dead Rising.

What is your point exactly, none of those games had 3-4 year development cycles and huge budgets?

2. He has seen the game in action I gather from what I read, you haven't, which instantly makes his opinion far more valid than yours on the subject.

 

 

@CGI - I don't know why we bother posting any articles that post the 360 in a good light, there is too many Sony trolls on this board and the mods will do nothing yet again.

1.then your best just don't good enough

Halo≠ huge budgets :/

2. He has seen the game in action I gather from what I read

good see not troll person on vgchartz

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