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Icyedge on 15 April 2010
JaggedSac said:
Icyedge said:
JaggedSac said:

It most likely detects gender based on bone structure.  Looks great.  Thanks for the video.

As pointed by someone else it use face recognition. But I also thought I would point out that it doesnt see your bone structure. Lets say you have broken bone in your arm the cam cannot see it. It extrapolate the skeleton base on the shape it is seeing, so using this to determine sex wouldnt work, unless you play naked lol.

Yes, I saw that someone linked to an article.

I wasn't implying that it was an x-ray device :)  But a basic bone structure can be gleaned.  Arm length, torso size, shoulder width, leg length, hip size, etc.  Unless you are wearing some odd clothing(which will probably f' up Natal anyway), the bone structure generated should be a fairly good representation of your body shape.

Yes surely, its just that it wouldnt be enough to evaluate sex.



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Skeeuk on 15 April 2010

The camera can detect the gender, body movement and distance of different players.

^ if watching live, surely any camera can detect that?



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Garnett on 15 April 2010
jb237 said:

That demonstration is nearly the same thing as this, which was done 5 years ago. :/

 

Natal more than a Toy for the Eye, its a toy for the body and soul.

 

Im impressed, but the games are what matters, you can have the perfect controller and a bunch of shitty games and it wont matter. 



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JaggedSac on 15 April 2010
Icyedge said:
JaggedSac said:

Yes, I saw that someone linked to an article.

I wasn't implying that it was an x-ray device :)  But a basic bone structure can be gleaned.  Arm length, torso size, shoulder width, leg length, hip size, etc.  Unless you are wearing some odd clothing(which will probably f' up Natal anyway), the bone structure generated should be a fairly good representation of your body shape.

Yes surely, its just that it wouldnt be enough to evaluate sex.

That plus movement/gait, would display a good indication of gender.

It is like seeing someone from behind and knowing what gender there are without seeing their face.  You make an assumption based on gait and body shape.  Of course, this can lead to hilarious/embarassing/disgusting consequences :)

Body shape plus facial recognition would be the best IMO.



alekth on 15 April 2010

Computers are far worse than people at quickly estimating facial expression/sex/age/etnicity though. People draw a lot on social experience (and can often be mistaken too, when it's a new experience, e.g. moving to China when you haven't had contact with many Asian people before).

Computers can analyze and compare, but whether Natal+xbox360 has the power to do it quickly or enough data on what to look for, it seems like a whacky idea. And maybe not a very enjoyable one either since people don't necessarily want to look like themselves in a game (or however a computer decides to approximate them).



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A Bad Clown on 15 April 2010

Women over 250 pounds with lop-sided faces need not apply.



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Icyedge on 15 April 2010
Skeeuk said:
The camera can detect the gender, body movement and distance of different players.

^ if watching live, surely any camera can detect that?

You missed the start of the discussion.



Tanstalas on 18 April 2010
A Bad Clown said:
Women over 250 pounds with lop-sided faces need not apply.

Nor Seraphic's pretty boys :P



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FaRmLaNd on 19 April 2010

If it detects a man as a woman chances are natal is telling you that you're fat.

Lose some weight.



Mistershine on 19 April 2010
Goddbless said:
Maybe I'm alone here but I looks like it's showing that ladies ovaries. lol

On topic there is still some lag but it's to be expected. Also I'm not sure if determining gender through facial features will work flawlessly either. What if it's a chick with a beard?


Natal discriminates against old women!