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Khuutra on 16 April 2010
letsdance said:


The invincible theory has been debunked. That and Link needs to have enough time to use the Ocarina as does Kratos needs to use his. Also, going back wont do anything considering there would be no past just current since it would be in nuetral world.

You claiming it doesn't count doens't mean that Link's invincibility is debunked - he has more than one invincibility item anyway.



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Khuutra on 16 April 2010
pizzahut451 said:
Kasz216 said:
pizzahut451 said:

so i guess triforce wouldnt work on kratos as well?

Why wouldn't it?  The Triforce works on anybody.  You don't need to be "woven into the triforce" for it to work on anybody.  It's just outword reality manipulation.

That's the thing.  The Triforce is an outword multiversal reality manipulation.  While the Loom of Fate is a very specific kind of reality manipulation.

It's like having a sword that kills skeletons in one hit and the vorpal sword.

so cherry pciking than? just say so.

The Triforce is shown to work on realities that it doesn't originate from. The loom can't, by definition, because there's no one left to weave new lives into it, and Link wouldn't be in it anyway.

That's not cherrypicking. It's just how these things work.



Kasz216 on 16 April 2010
pizzahut451 said:
Kasz216 said:
pizzahut451 said:
Kasz216 said:
pizzahut451 said:
McClaren said:
dampowell said:
You do realize... Link could assemble the triforce and wish Kratos never existed.


You do realize... Kratos could go see the Sisters of Fate and make sure Link was never born.

hey, i said that

Though... it wouldn't work, since Link isn't from their world, and isn't woven into their loom.

Also, assuming a nuetral ground, time travel in general isn't going to help, since all you can do is travel back in time in the nuetral land... and doing so would be seen as retreating anway, prompting a loss in the fight.

so i guess triforce wouldnt work on kratos as well?

Why wouldn't it?  The Triforce works on anybody.  You don't need to be "woven into the triforce" for it to work on anybody.  It's just outword reality manipulation.

That's the thing.  The Triforce is an outword multiversal reality manipulation.  While the Loom of Fate is a very specific kind of reality manipulation.

It's like having a sword that kills skeletons in one hit and the vorpal sword.

so cherry pciking than? just say so.

How is it Cherry picking.

If I have an Item that "Controls the fate of everyone born in this world"

VS an Item that "Can change reality"

You don't see a difference there?

It's a VERY basic idea.



letsdance on 16 April 2010
Kasz216 said:
letsdance said:
Maynard_Tool said:
letsdance said:
Maynard_Tool said:
YEah right, all link has to do is play his Ocarina to go back in time and kill kratos when he was a baby. PFfffffff easy win for Link I would say.


As can Kratos. That arguement is negated by each other.

I guess you are using the reference in the second game, when he has to run to the top of the tower, then move the big ass chains to find the exact point in time, then run again to get to the portal??

 

Dude, link just has to get his ocarina out. Kratos will take forever to get there.... it would be just too late. Link wins.

Plus, do you really know all the weapons and possible combinations link can use? All the masks, shields, swords, armors, and god knows what else.... I mean, he can turn invincible, and kratos wouldn´t be able to touch him. By saying that we can combine every link..... That just gave the win to link.

If it was a pure fight w/o weapons, sure kratos will have the advantage. But, by combining every posible scenario with every single win.... you just have link the victory my friend


The invincible theory has been debunked. That and Link needs to have enough time to use the Ocarina as does Kratos needs to use his. Also, going back wont do anything considering there would be no past just current since it would be in nuetral world.

No it isn't.  I debunked your debunking... which you then acknowledged and then decided to completly ignore.

Also you know... you said composite link.

But Khuutra agreeing that Link is imune to bombs makes me win this arguement... which is the fact that you guys are being ridiculous about that programming. You havn't debunked me.



Kasz216 on 16 April 2010
letsdance said:
Kasz216 said:
letsdance said:
Maynard_Tool said:
letsdance said:
Maynard_Tool said:
YEah right, all link has to do is play his Ocarina to go back in time and kill kratos when he was a baby. PFfffffff easy win for Link I would say.


As can Kratos. That arguement is negated by each other.

I guess you are using the reference in the second game, when he has to run to the top of the tower, then move the big ass chains to find the exact point in time, then run again to get to the portal??

 

Dude, link just has to get his ocarina out. Kratos will take forever to get there.... it would be just too late. Link wins.

Plus, do you really know all the weapons and possible combinations link can use? All the masks, shields, swords, armors, and god knows what else.... I mean, he can turn invincible, and kratos wouldn´t be able to touch him. By saying that we can combine every link..... That just gave the win to link.

If it was a pure fight w/o weapons, sure kratos will have the advantage. But, by combining every posible scenario with every single win.... you just have link the victory my friend


The invincible theory has been debunked. That and Link needs to have enough time to use the Ocarina as does Kratos needs to use his. Also, going back wont do anything considering there would be no past just current since it would be in nuetral world.

No it isn't.  I debunked your debunking... which you then acknowledged and then decided to completly ignore.

Also you know... you said composite link.

But Khuutra agreeing that Link is imune to bombs makes me win this arguement... which is the fact that you guys are being ridiculous about that programming. You havn't debunked me.

No, it's not.  Your assuming the cloak was a "programming mistake" based on nothing but more then your PURE desire for Kratos to win.

When the developers quite literally had to add this in, unlike "bomb invincibility" which could of been an oversite of omission.



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Maynard_Tool on 16 April 2010
letsdance said:
Maynard_Tool said:
letsdance said:
Maynard_Tool said:
YEah right, all link has to do is play his Ocarina to go back in time and kill kratos when he was a baby. PFfffffff easy win for Link I would say.


As can Kratos. That arguement is negated by each other.

I guess you are using the reference in the second game, when he has to run to the top of the tower, then move the big ass chains to find the exact point in time, then run again to get to the portal??

 

Dude, link just has to get his ocarina out. Kratos will take forever to get there.... it would be just too late. Link wins.

Plus, do you really know all the weapons and possible combinations link can use? All the masks, shields, swords, armors, and god knows what else.... I mean, he can turn invincible, and kratos wouldn´t be able to touch him. By saying that we can combine every link..... That just gave the win to link.

If it was a pure fight w/o weapons, sure kratos will have the advantage. But, by combining every posible scenario with every single win.... you just have link the victory my friend


The invincible theory has been debunked. That and Link needs to have enough time to use the Ocarina as does Kratos needs to use his. Also, going back wont do anything considering there would be no past just current since it would be in nuetral world.

Well, i can give you the neutral world thing... but again, it wouldnt be the same. Kratos has to go to an specific location, to follow specific steps to go back in time. Link has to just pull out his ocarina and played it. It would take about 200 times less time to play the ocarina, so kratos would have no chance in hell with that.

 

And how come the invincible theory has been debunked? It´s part of link´s weaponary. I don´t see why link would not be able to use it.



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letsdance on 16 April 2010
pizzahut451 said:
Kasz216 said:
pizzahut451 said:
Kasz216 said:
pizzahut451 said:
McClaren said:
dampowell said:
You do realize... Link could assemble the triforce and wish Kratos never existed.


You do realize... Kratos could go see the Sisters of Fate and make sure Link was never born.

hey, i said that

Though... it wouldn't work, since Link isn't from their world, and isn't woven into their loom.

Also, assuming a nuetral ground, time travel in general isn't going to help, since all you can do is travel back in time in the nuetral land... and doing so would be seen as retreating anway, prompting a loss in the fight.

so i guess triforce wouldnt work on kratos as well?

Why wouldn't it?  The Triforce works on anybody.  You don't need to be "woven into the triforce" for it to work on anybody.  It's just outword reality manipulation.

That's the thing.  The Triforce is an outword multiversal reality manipulation.  While the Loom of Fate is a very specific kind of reality manipulation.

It's like having a sword that kills skeletons in one hit and the vorpal sword.

so cherry pciking than? just say so.


They have been cherry picking the entire 800 posts... but I have to say this isn't one of those times. The loom would only work if Kratos tailored a specific thread for Link after crossing over though... butt this isn't the situation. It's the same for Link with the triforce. The guy cant just run away to start looking for the triforce in hopes of gaining it before hundreds of hundred of hundreds of years goes by.



dampowell on 16 April 2010

Okay... I don't think this had been said. But if the Hero of Time... does not show up to defeat Kratos... or dies.. he will be reborn in another boy to face the evil again. So even if Kratos wins the first fight... he'll have millennia of fights to stop link.



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letsdance on 16 April 2010
Maynard_Tool said:
letsdance said:
Maynard_Tool said:
letsdance said:
Maynard_Tool said:
YEah right, all link has to do is play his Ocarina to go back in time and kill kratos when he was a baby. PFfffffff easy win for Link I would say.


As can Kratos. That arguement is negated by each other.

I guess you are using the reference in the second game, when he has to run to the top of the tower, then move the big ass chains to find the exact point in time, then run again to get to the portal??

 

Dude, link just has to get his ocarina out. Kratos will take forever to get there.... it would be just too late. Link wins.

Plus, do you really know all the weapons and possible combinations link can use? All the masks, shields, swords, armors, and god knows what else.... I mean, he can turn invincible, and kratos wouldn´t be able to touch him. By saying that we can combine every link..... That just gave the win to link.

If it was a pure fight w/o weapons, sure kratos will have the advantage. But, by combining every posible scenario with every single win.... you just have link the victory my friend


The invincible theory has been debunked. That and Link needs to have enough time to use the Ocarina as does Kratos needs to use his. Also, going back wont do anything considering there would be no past just current since it would be in nuetral world.

Well, i can give you the neutral world thing... but again, it wouldnt be the same. Kratos has to go to an specific location, to follow specific steps to go back in time. Link has to just pull out his ocarina and played it. It would take about 200 times less time to play the ocarina, so kratos would have no chance in hell with that.

 

And how come the invincible theory has been debunked? It´s part of link´s weaponary. I don´t see why link would not be able to use it.


I should ask what item you are reffering to first.



Kasz216 on 16 April 2010
letsdance said:
pizzahut451 said:
Kasz216 said:
pizzahut451 said:
Kasz216 said:
pizzahut451 said:
McClaren said:
dampowell said:
You do realize... Link could assemble the triforce and wish Kratos never existed.


You do realize... Kratos could go see the Sisters of Fate and make sure Link was never born.

hey, i said that

Though... it wouldn't work, since Link isn't from their world, and isn't woven into their loom.

Also, assuming a nuetral ground, time travel in general isn't going to help, since all you can do is travel back in time in the nuetral land... and doing so would be seen as retreating anway, prompting a loss in the fight.

so i guess triforce wouldnt work on kratos as well?

Why wouldn't it?  The Triforce works on anybody.  You don't need to be "woven into the triforce" for it to work on anybody.  It's just outword reality manipulation.

That's the thing.  The Triforce is an outword multiversal reality manipulation.  While the Loom of Fate is a very specific kind of reality manipulation.

It's like having a sword that kills skeletons in one hit and the vorpal sword.

so cherry pciking than? just say so.


They have been cherry picking the entire 800 posts... but I have to say this isn't one of those times. The loom would only work if Kratos tailored a specific thread for Link after crossing over though... butt this isn't the situation. It's the same for Link with the triforce. The guy cant just run away to start looking for the triforce in hopes of gaining it before hundreds of hundred of hundreds of years goes by.

Thankfully for link you've created a scenario where Link starts with the Triforce.

Though the Triforce is really just pure spite for Link anyway.

It's like giving Thanos the Infinity Gauntlet in a fight vs Wolverine.