highwaystar101 said:
nightsurge said: Look, I'm not saying that there was absolutely no threat. Obviously there was a threat of mutation and a high death rate, but the government and media painted it as a certainty. Even after overwhelming evidence came out to support that really only the people who are succeptible to normal flu complications were the ones experiencing issues with Swine Flu, they pressed on insisting we get vaccinated when there really wasn't much need. Now if it mutated to be much more violent, then a vaccine would be needed, but it would likely need to be a much different vaccine and the current one would not do much good anyway.
Also, I just don't see how 30,000 cases WORLDWIDE can be classed as an "epidemic over a wide geographic area and affecting a large proportion of the population". Sure it is over a wide area, but 30,000 at the time of that Pandemic labeling is less than .0004% of the population, not a large portion at all. There were only 2000 deaths in the USA since this "pandemic" due to combinations of all the flu's. That's only .008% of the US population. |
30,000 cases? Where on Earth did you get that BS figure? The WHO seem to think the figure is 600,000+ (source), and these are the people who know. And as established, diseases that we have no natural immunity increases exponentially. This means that one month it can be 600,000, the next month it could be a billion under the right conditions.
30,000 cases is when the WHO claimed it to be a pandemic. Check your own freakin source for the info on that one.
Also, are you not listening to what we are saying about deaths? We are not saying that the flu will kill you, but we are saying it spreads like wildfire, much much faster than a regular flu because we have no natural immunity. If it mutated (which viruses like to do, a lot) to a virus that could kill, then the new deadly virus will claim millions upon millions of lives. (So you can't use current death figures, they are unimportant; what is important is the infection rate)
I still don't see why you would want so many people to take vaccines of a non-lethal virus then. If it mutated, the current vaccine you already took wouldn't be any more affective than no vaccine in most cases. So once again, the government and media were simply trying to get us to believe it already was some super violent strand that killed lots of people and the vaccine was our only hope. If it mutates, we are all screwed anyways.
Even if the chances of this happening are low, the damage would be extremely high should it happen.
Also, vaccines work. You had to go all the way back to the Guillain-barre sydrome from 1976 vaccines to find a case where they didn't work in a significant way. The latest vaccines worked, the problems in 1976 are not really an issue in the latest pandemic vaccines. I quote...
Actually, even today the vaccines cause permanent handicaps and stuff. Even the normal season flu vaccines cause irreparable damage in some people. Vaccines are not guaranteed safe. They never are. Not to mention seasonal vaccines are mere guesses to which strand will be dominant this season. I don't know about you but I don't feel like injecting myself with a "guess".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URHhyP4lmQ4
"There has been in particular a lot of concern about Guillain-Barre syndrome because of the incidences during the swine flu vaccination campaigns in 1976 in the US. To date, less than a dozen suspected cases of Guillain-Barre have been reported following vaccination. Only a few of these Guillain-Barre cases may be linked to the pandemic vaccine. Illness has been transient and patients have recovered."
Dr Marie-Paule Kieny, Director, Initiative for Vaccine Research Source
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