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Whether Mac OS or Windows suits you best largely depends on what you value and what you want to use your PC for.

If you say the price and performance of these two computers are roughly equal, you might as well get the Mac. You can always run Windows on it if you find you prefer that platform. Or Linux, for that matter.



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fenderlove01 said:

When you do a price/performance comparison how well does the mac fair? I use both and to be honest i dont notice that much a difference between the two and both have their problems. Both were about the same price, same age, both are actually basically new. So do you think it is worth it?


Mac's are hardware and software from the same company so it always (or atleast 99% of the time) goes well together. I've got some Apple nuts in my class who always complain about how slow and glitchy Windows. In the XP generation I found it laughable but with Vista I had to agree with them. Now that Windows 7 is out (best windows ever by far) they just need to shut up. It runs fast, steady and is just as good if not better then a Mac. Best of all it runs good on a PC half the price of a Mac and even runs in its basic form on a PC 1/4 of a mac's price if you really dont have a lot of money to spare. So whether or not a MAc is better then a PC compleetly depends on what hardware and software you combine on your PC but a new PC and a new Mac go head to head and the PC would win due to the lower price.



MikeB said:
Considering the price is usually much higher than for equivalently specced PCs, the price/performance ratio is actually rather poor. Macs nowadays are more about style, cool looking slim devices often with passive cooling, etc.

MacOS X is much better than previous MacOS releases and I would prefer this OS from a technical perspective if not Windows was better supported and MacOS despite advanced internals is too much geared towards noobs.

I grew up with Amigas which had pre-emptive multi-tasking from the beginning since the mid 80s and I was used to using a mouse with at least 2 buttons, although I used a 3 button optical mouse a couple of years later, so using a one button mouse felt very lacking to me.

In the early 90s Amigas were actually the fastest Macs you could buy, my Amiga could emulate several instances of single tasking 68k MacOS from within AmigaOS and software could run faster than on a real Mac. The MacOS environment felt so limited to me though, but there was much MacOS software available which wasn't available for the Amiga, so being able to emulate the software faster than on a real Mac from within AmigaOS was very welcomed.

I like it that Microsoft is getting more competition. But in reality I am not impressed by either MacOS, Windows nor Linux distros. They are all so inefficient with the hardware resources and from the usage perspective have seen far too few gains compared to where we should stand today IMO. If only Amiga projects, BeOS or even QNX would have gotten the support and resources they deserved...

I'm mostly with you on this one. Usually, generally, Macs don't offer the same price/performance ratio as PCs, be them custom built or branded. Your best bet is to buy a Mac right after a product update, for example the new iMacs, especially the 27" model, are quite good value for money as a total package. And once the MacPros are updated, I'm confident they will once again offer very good performance when compared to other similar specced PCs.

It really is a shame that Amiga didn't gain the traction back at the day. Perhaps it was hindered by the image of it being a gaming machine. Those days PCs were all about work and no play so maybe the image really did hurt Amiga. Anyway, I kind of disagree with you on the inefficiency of OS X, though not completely. Not all parts of the OS are well optimized, Apple has a "policy" that it optimizes parts of code that most affect the end user experience, so there are pieces of code that have not been well optimized because they are rarely used, or the user doesn't experience much difference either way. But then there are things that are very well optimized and utilize the hardware well. I think it is a testament of this that (basically) the same OS can be used in a phone and a high end workstation. And that it runs fast even in the phone. Actually, now that I'm thinking about it, the iPhone OS fork is definitely very well optimized for the ARM architecture, but the desktop fork maybe not so well for Intel, although each successive version of the OS tends to be slightly faster than the previous.

One thing to note, in addition to the efficiency, is the development environment and frameworks. The cocoa frameworks are quite brilliant, IMO, but I don't know a single thing about Amiga development. I would suspect that it was/is more lower level stuff, that way it is possible to better leverage the hardware if you know what you're doing. Have you done any dev work on Amigas, can you shed some light on the frameworks and general development environment?



Solid_Snake4RD said:
SmoothCriminal said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
Sorcery said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
PC are hands down better than MACs.

Most people only buy MAC or other Apple products cause they are the 'COOL' thing of today and having it is a style statement.Showing off.No wonder iPHONE sold so well even though it had nothing

The iPhone is still one of the best smartphones out there, even with all the ones that followed its release. I have no interest in getting one, but I'm not going to deny it's an excellent device.

 

As for Mac vs PC? I honestly don't know what to say. PC laptops sort of suck ass, to be honest, but Macbooks are all built to be incredibly efficient despite lacking the power of their PC laptop counterparts. I honestly look at Macs like Nintendo systems; they're built extremely well, a bit overpriced considering their components, but they'll treat you well and last a long time. I look at PC's like Sony/MS systems; they're not that well built and they won't last that long, but they'll throw as much power as they can at you in comparison to what you'll pay for them.

 

That's not to say all Macs are well-built, you're still going to have problems on occasion, but on the whole they perform nicely.

iphone is ok.

but its noway near the droid or Nokia n900 or xperia.not even anyway near the nokia old ones like N95-96-97.

 

heck the first iphone didn't even show you the name of the person in ur directory that was calling you and didn't have 3g which was there way before

The iPhone may lose in features, but it wins in design. I have an iPhone, and my mom has a Droid. It's big, bulky, heavy, and doesn't fit in pockets well. The iPhone is the exact opposite.

 

OT: PC works for me, and that's where the games are. Besides, I don't want to pay 3 times the price for the same parts. Macs have a wonderful OS, but it's not worth the extra money.

just buying an iPhone for design isn't justifying.The OP is about whether MACS are better overall and they are not.

 

Iphone was majorly succesful because of the iPOD similar branding.Otherwise it would have be like all other phones.

You do understand that design is way more than just how the device looks? As someone who has used Nokia phones, it is quite wrong to say that iPhone isn't near N95 and the likes. It is ok to like other phones, it is ok not to like Apple products, but don't try to make it seem like your opinion is the only right one and that the success of iPhone is just sheeps following marketing. Apple makes wonderful products that offer a superior user experience to most competition, and there are a lot of people who see the value in that.



lol, typical apple-tards.

All apple computer these days use your typical PC hardware, nothing is custom anymore, but hey if you wanna believe in a lie, then go right ahead, it's your own decision anyways XD



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Plaupius said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
SmoothCriminal said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
Sorcery said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
PC are hands down better than MACs.

Most people only buy MAC or other Apple products cause they are the 'COOL' thing of today and having it is a style statement.Showing off.No wonder iPHONE sold so well even though it had nothing

The iPhone is still one of the best smartphones out there, even with all the ones that followed its release. I have no interest in getting one, but I'm not going to deny it's an excellent device.

 

As for Mac vs PC? I honestly don't know what to say. PC laptops sort of suck ass, to be honest, but Macbooks are all built to be incredibly efficient despite lacking the power of their PC laptop counterparts. I honestly look at Macs like Nintendo systems; they're built extremely well, a bit overpriced considering their components, but they'll treat you well and last a long time. I look at PC's like Sony/MS systems; they're not that well built and they won't last that long, but they'll throw as much power as they can at you in comparison to what you'll pay for them.

 

That's not to say all Macs are well-built, you're still going to have problems on occasion, but on the whole they perform nicely.

iphone is ok.

but its noway near the droid or Nokia n900 or xperia.not even anyway near the nokia old ones like N95-96-97.

 

heck the first iphone didn't even show you the name of the person in ur directory that was calling you and didn't have 3g which was there way before

The iPhone may lose in features, but it wins in design. I have an iPhone, and my mom has a Droid. It's big, bulky, heavy, and doesn't fit in pockets well. The iPhone is the exact opposite.

 

OT: PC works for me, and that's where the games are. Besides, I don't want to pay 3 times the price for the same parts. Macs have a wonderful OS, but it's not worth the extra money.

just buying an iPhone for design isn't justifying.The OP is about whether MACS are better overall and they are not.

 

Iphone was majorly succesful because of the iPOD similar branding.Otherwise it would have be like all other phones.

You do understand that design is way more than just how the device looks? As someone who has used Nokia phones, it is quite wrong to say that iPhone isn't near N95 and the likes. It is ok to like other phones, it is ok not to like Apple products, but don't try to make it seem like your opinion is the only right one and that the success of iPhone is just sheeps following marketing. Apple makes wonderful products that offer a superior user experience to most competition, and there are a lot of people who see the value in that.

I agree that apple products are great and look awesome.but when you compare it with other heaviweights,its beaten down



Macs are better, unless you want something that is more economically, or allows you more flexibility and control of the platform, or to allow you a wide breathe or productivity software, and let's not forget about games, and of course periphals...so yeah...Macs are better for all the rest of the stuff...errr...



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@ Plaupius

The core of the OS was heavily low-level optimised, higher level parts were mostly written in a C-like laguage (same roots) and later were rewritten in C.

The classic 32-bit AmigaOS development frameworks were technically very advanced for its time (80s) with shared libraries, universal scripting support, datatypes (for example allowed ancient paint/word processor/spreadsheet programs to use new image formats they were not designed for like PNG, etc) etc. There were many different dev tools and framework/GUI addons/replacements and after C= went out of business there was a lack of direction which eventually split up the development community into various different directions.

The OS is being revived by devs who loved the system:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AmigaOS_4



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It depends at what you're doing. All formats are viable for different things.

I work extensively with the final cut studio editing suite. That software is only on macs and thus I use macs. Its not the only editing platform thats great (Avid is great and even premiere is widely used in some circles) but final cut pro is my personal preference and if I get the choice I'll thus be using a mac.

If you don't have a specific need for Linux or Mac osx then I would suggest windows but really its all about the specific things you're doing and what you're comfortable and use to using.

No platform is for all things for all people all the time.