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All right, and again, some of my thoughts on all of this...

I don't have anything against reviews. I just don't think I should base my decisions on them. BUT, I think reviews can be bad for the gaming industry because they can affect third-party developpers who, I think in my humble opinion, dare try something new and different.

Again with Cursed Mountain. The controls issues is what people will remember, being true or not. And then, the sales aren't good and bang...goodbye developper and there is NO WAY I will see a sequel of this game.

And I am not talking about games like Deca Sports or Game Party 3, I am talking about great games that are different and new. Take Silent Hill Shattered Memories. By all means, it was great. But, no battles...Hum...let's bring the score down for this one...because people want battles...Well, not ALL the TIME. Let's try something new out there. And I am glad games like Heavy Rain  do it.

That's it for now.



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yeah im with you...i really don't go by reviewer scores

however i do like watching ign's video reviews



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Darc Requiem said:
 

I've seen that in several games. I saw one Enchanted Arms review that it was obvious that the reviewer only played the first couple hours of the game. They review complained that the game was constantly how do things, how to climb ladders for instance. Enchanted Arms only does that in the initial area of the game. One review for The Last Remnant the reviewer didn't know that if you hit X you can see what attacks each of you characters is going to do. On the other hand for heavily hyped games, they'll be glaring flaws that they over look.

Yeah I felt the critics were pretty merciless with Enchanted Arms. That whole "press X to do this" thing was really supposed to be a humour thing and the reviewers didn't 'get it'. I can understand why mostly everyone (critics and jrpg fans alike) thinks the game is mediocre but I personally found it an enjoyable 50+ hour experience. And I only paid $10 for the game! (brand new). The game didn't really do anything original and the game was quickly dismissed as generic jrpg #794. At best, it was seen as a novelty for being the first traditional Jrpg on the Xbox 360 (and probably the first one on the Xbox brand altogether unless you count Sudeki). But I felt the gameplay was great (even if unoriginal) and the dialogue exchanges were downright hilarious. It wouldn't hurt for fans of the genre to give it a try (though the same could be said for countless other jrpgs that are perceived to be generic but might end up being a really enjoyable experience to a gamer if given a chance). Especially when the game is dirt cheap these days.



The game that finally did it for me with most reviewers was FIFA 10. It got 9 and 10 across the board, but after playing the manager mode for just 1 season (which isn't exactly a lot), it started to get ridiculously buggy with players randomly disappearing from your squad amongst other major errors.

Not one review that I read picked up on it, yet it's something that a lot of people noticed on launch day! The reviewers had clearly played the game for no more than half an hour when reviewing it.



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If you have to much time on your hands, only one console, and/or a lot of money than I recommend not listening to reviews. If your the opposite of this and you only want to play the best. Reviews are a great guide.



dunno001 said:
Torillian said:
adsl said:
I enjoyed Final Fantasy Crystal Bearers too and it deserves a better reviews. Since it is a Wii game the reviewers just don't like it.

Wii has already a very strong and diverse library, unique titles like FFCB, RS2, NMH2 and Just Dance keep coming, but you know that they will have bad reviews only because they aren't hd titles...

And all those pages and pages that reviewers wrote about the game as to why they thought it deserved the score they gave?  Was that all just a front so they could mask their bias?  What a bunch of BS.



Actually, yes, it is a front. They always compare it to what "could have been" (or in their eyes, "should" have been) on the PS3 or 360. Since the graphics aren't as good, they dock it points right there. Add in quite a few of them who whine about "the waggle", others whining about the "casualness" of its games, and the ones that just in general don't like Nintendo, and they'll skew the words however they can to trash a Wii game.

What they are not doing is reviewing for the people who care about the game. They're reviewing based on where they want to see gaming go, ie, a stagnant and slowly shrinking red ocean. Yes, there's the occasional blockbuster that makes gaming seem larger than ever, but in general, games are not selling as well as developers need, and they're going out of business as a result. But the Wii requires companies to shift how they do things- "they" meaning publishers, developers, and yes, reviewers. Rather than do that, they'll slight the Wii, trashtalk it, do what they can in hopes that someone picks up on this and decides to not get a Wii, getting something else instead. It becomes another person that they can sell the same old tricks to. All because they just don't want to change.

EDIT IN REPLY TO POST ABOVE THIS: You mention some Nintendo games as getting high scores. I'll counter that by referencing my first line- what could be on the HD systems. They know that Nintendo won't make a game for someone else. So they can't compare it to something else, and actually have to review it based on its merits. This results in the higher scores, and, for Nintendo's better games, also allows them to help perpetuate the "belief" that only Nintendo games sell on Nintendo systems, and that "we can't compete with Nintendo." Get the smaller guys to give up, go HD, and keep fueling what they want. Gotta take some lumps to get what you want; giving Nintendo's own games good scores, while usually deserving, is the easiest, and feeds another slight.

@pots555: Where is this Fragile cult? I think I need to go join it...

I've always seen this argument, pertaining to low Wii scores. "They aren't reviewing based on what the game is meant for, but rather what 'gamers' think of the game" or something along those lines.

I propose to you this: If a developer made a game whose sole purpose was to bore you to death, should it get a 10/10 if it succeeds at that? The game is "meant" to bore you, so they should score it based on what it's "meant" to do, right?

Now, back to reality, just because a game is "meant" to do something, doesn't mean it's fun. And that's what reviewers do, the review based on how much fun they had. If they gave all the games low scores, it's because they didn't have fun with it, whether the game did what it intended to or not. Kane & Lynch is "supposed" to give me a taste of what it is to be a hired gun. The game does that....but it still sucked



ClaudeLv250 said:
--OkeyDokey-- said:
SHMUPGurus said:
KylieDog said:
Bionic Commando and Dark Void are actually very enjoyable.

I don't know if you will agree with me on this too, but Dark Sector was enjoyable as well.

See Nintendo fans. You're not the only ones that like crappy games :P

These people are clearly lying through their teeth because those aren't one of those magical 85+ games.

Precisely. They were saying that there are lower scored HD games that can be enjoyed also. Or is it that only Nintendo fans can enjoy lower rated games because of the "Wii bias" in reviews. 

I'll go ahead with the theme of this thread and scream PS3 bias because of Lair and Haze. Those games were hyped to hell, and got low scores. I'll scream PS3 bias because MW2 got a higher graphical score than KZ2 from IGN, and I'll scream PS3 bias because Eurogamer liked Halo 3 better than MGS4. 

Not so much a one way street, now is it?



BMaker11 said:

I'll go ahead with the theme of this thread and scream PS3 bias because of Lair and Haze. Those games were hyped to hell, and got low scores. I'll scream PS3 bias because MW2 got a higher graphical score than KZ2 from IGN, and I'll scream PS3 bias because Eurogamer liked Halo 3 better than MGS4. 

Not so much a one way street, now is it?

You are distorting people's arguments, no one "screamed bias" just because certain games got hyped and then got low scores, or becasue one game got a 9 and another got a 9.2 ...

The problem with reviews is twofold -

1. Reviewers getting to review games they don't like from the onstart (What's wrong with that, you say? Ok, let's let someone who is an excellent writer and enjoys only games like NSMBWii, a Boy and His Blob and Rabbids Go Home write the official review of GOW3 {or Halo 3, or MGS4} for Eurogamer or some other "major" site - these games will all be torn apart in that person's review, I promise you) or even on systems they don't like (let's get that same person, who let's assume usually plays only on the Wii and is used only to its controls, to review Demon's Souls on the PS3. Or any PS3 game for that matter. Note that the person dislikes the PS3 controller - what do you think that person  will say about the game?)

2. Reviewers don't play games through. Sometimes they play them just 30 minutes. And some of the review give the impression they just read about the game somewhere else...



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I've found myself in a somewhat similar situation this gen; I've played a bunch of games with high scores that I really didn't like.
Then again, I haven't let review scores dictate my purchases since the PSOne days so I'm good anyway.