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360 vs PS3 stock levels in your region?

Europe / SCEE area - 360 more in stock here 47 23.38%
 
Europe / SCEE area - PS3 more in stock here 30 14.93%
 
Americas area - 360 more in stock here 83 41.29%
 
Americas area - PS3 more in stock here 29 14.43%
 
Asia / others - 360 more in stock here 4 1.99%
 
Asia / others - PS3 more in stock here 8 3.98%
 
Total:201
Kasz216 said:
MikeB said:
MikeB said:
koffieboon said:
MikeB said:

In the coming months Sony and Microsoft will announce how many XBox 360s and PS3s have been sold to retailers worldwide until the end of March 2010.

I was wondering which console has fewer units in stock at retail at the moment, so this poll may help provide some insight with regard to future 'sold to retail' comparisons.

Various times in the past it was claimed the bigger boxed fat PS3 had about 1 million more units on the shelves than 360s, which sounded weird to me (a lot of extra needed shelf /storage space in comparison to the 360).

In my area, Groningen, the Netherlands shops are currently flooded by especially cheap XBox 360 arcade units while there are PS3 shortages.

That comparison can only be made when both Sony and Microsoft use the same definition of shipped units. We know both are to retail, but it isn't clear which units are included into that total and whether one or both include things like replacement or demo units.

If we assume this, we can easily assume Microsoft wins with regard to replacement units...

Seriously replacement units are not counted as extra "hardware sales" to retail, they are replaced for free.

Actually Sony may counted that as "shipped."  They don't report "Hardware sales" they report shipped... and there numbers don't match up to any major source.

Something is different in the way Sony counts it's numbers.

what? nothings different with sony. you just made it all up in your head. sony know how much consoles they sold! they fuckin make the damn things man!



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SOLIDSNAKE08 said:
Kasz216 said:
MikeB said:
MikeB said:
koffieboon said:
MikeB said:

In the coming months Sony and Microsoft will announce how many XBox 360s and PS3s have been sold to retailers worldwide until the end of March 2010.

I was wondering which console has fewer units in stock at retail at the moment, so this poll may help provide some insight with regard to future 'sold to retail' comparisons.

Various times in the past it was claimed the bigger boxed fat PS3 had about 1 million more units on the shelves than 360s, which sounded weird to me (a lot of extra needed shelf /storage space in comparison to the 360).

In my area, Groningen, the Netherlands shops are currently flooded by especially cheap XBox 360 arcade units while there are PS3 shortages.

That comparison can only be made when both Sony and Microsoft use the same definition of shipped units. We know both are to retail, but it isn't clear which units are included into that total and whether one or both include things like replacement or demo units.

If we assume this, we can easily assume Microsoft wins with regard to replacement units...

Seriously replacement units are not counted as extra "hardware sales" to retail, they are replaced for free.

Actually Sony may counted that as "shipped."  They don't report "Hardware sales" they report shipped... and there numbers don't match up to any major source.

Something is different in the way Sony counts it's numbers.

what? nothings different with sony. you just made it all up in your head. sony know how much consoles they sold! they fuckin make the damn things man!

You didn't even read what I wrote did you.



Duluth, Minnesota

360 more in stock here, mostly arcade models. ps3 still hard to find up here.



Kasz216 said:
MikeB said:
Kasz216 said:
MikeB said:
MikeB said:
koffieboon said:
MikeB said:

In the coming months Sony and Microsoft will announce how many XBox 360s and PS3s have been sold to retailers worldwide until the end of March 2010.

I was wondering which console has fewer units in stock at retail at the moment, so this poll may help provide some insight with regard to future 'sold to retail' comparisons.

Various times in the past it was claimed the bigger boxed fat PS3 had about 1 million more units on the shelves than 360s, which sounded weird to me (a lot of extra needed shelf /storage space in comparison to the 360).

In my area, Groningen, the Netherlands shops are currently flooded by especially cheap XBox 360 arcade units while there are PS3 shortages.

That comparison can only be made when both Sony and Microsoft use the same definition of shipped units. We know both are to retail, but it isn't clear which units are included into that total and whether one or both include things like replacement or demo units.

If we assume this, we can easily assume Microsoft wins with regard to replacement units...

Seriously replacement units are not counted as extra "hardware sales" to retail, they are replaced for free.

Actually Sony may counted that as "shipped."  They don't report "Hardware sales" they report shipped... and there numbers don't match up to any major source.

Something is different in the way Sony counts it's numbers.

Actually they match up well and to requote myself from earlier within this thread:

"That was the case in the past.

Regarding PS3 sales:

"Unit Sales of Hardware (since April 2006)"
http://www.scei.co.jp/corporate/data/bizdataps3_sale_e.html

In the past regarding PS1 sales:
"PlayStation® Cumulative Production Shipments of Hardware (Unit: million)"
http://www.scei.co.jp/corporate/data/bizdataps_e.html "

How do you figure and match up well with what?

They had 33.5 million shipped at the End of Q3.  Vgchartz had 31 million.  I mean this is why you started that thread in the first place right?

How does this not make any sense?  End of Q3 for last fiscal year is Dec '09.  How is a 2.5 mil (I believe the norm is 1.5 - 2 mil) difference around the holidays, a time when companies push out more units for the higher demand strange to you?  Some were using this to imply VGC as wrong (though no tracker is 100% accurate), but you are looking at it in the reverse to say Sony is wrong or playing with their numbers.  In doing so, you are no better than the ones who pointed the blame at VGC. 

And, if I'm not mistaken, MS had about the same difference in shipped to sold.  Does that mean they are playing with their numbers, as well?



Good news!

PS3 is starting to be consistently in stock atleast online!

The 250gb is now back in stock at amazon, and the 120gb is in stock in most online retailers, I suspect HW sales will increase in the americas by another 15-30k!



 

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@ thismeintiel

And, if I'm not mistaken, MS had about the same difference in shipped to sold.


You are mistaken, according to VGChartz there were more than 600 thousand more PS3s on the shelves than XBox 360s by the end of last year.

Personally I think for the end of March 2010 it's pretty obvious, that the XBox 360 overall had way more units on the shelves than there were PS3s (shortages in various big and smaller countries).



Naughty Dog: "At Naughty Dog, we're pretty sure we should be able to see leaps between games on the PS3 that are even bigger than they were on the PS2."

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There are more 360s at the few Best Buys by me, but there always are as they sell faster there. Good number of PS3s too, only ones looking bad are the PSP and the Wii.

Id say there were about 20-30 360s at each store, and about 15-20 PS3s. One store only had 2 PSPs, any model, and 5 Wiis.



thismeintiel said:
Kasz216 said:
MikeB said:
Kasz216 said:
MikeB said:
MikeB said:
koffieboon said:
MikeB said:

In the coming months Sony and Microsoft will announce how many XBox 360s and PS3s have been sold to retailers worldwide until the end of March 2010.

I was wondering which console has fewer units in stock at retail at the moment, so this poll may help provide some insight with regard to future 'sold to retail' comparisons.

Various times in the past it was claimed the bigger boxed fat PS3 had about 1 million more units on the shelves than 360s, which sounded weird to me (a lot of extra needed shelf /storage space in comparison to the 360).

In my area, Groningen, the Netherlands shops are currently flooded by especially cheap XBox 360 arcade units while there are PS3 shortages.

That comparison can only be made when both Sony and Microsoft use the same definition of shipped units. We know both are to retail, but it isn't clear which units are included into that total and whether one or both include things like replacement or demo units.

If we assume this, we can easily assume Microsoft wins with regard to replacement units...

Seriously replacement units are not counted as extra "hardware sales" to retail, they are replaced for free.

Actually Sony may counted that as "shipped."  They don't report "Hardware sales" they report shipped... and there numbers don't match up to any major source.

Something is different in the way Sony counts it's numbers.

Actually they match up well and to requote myself from earlier within this thread:

"That was the case in the past.

Regarding PS3 sales:

"Unit Sales of Hardware (since April 2006)"
http://www.scei.co.jp/corporate/data/bizdataps3_sale_e.html

In the past regarding PS1 sales:
"PlayStation® Cumulative Production Shipments of Hardware (Unit: million)"
http://www.scei.co.jp/corporate/data/bizdataps_e.html "

How do you figure and match up well with what?

They had 33.5 million shipped at the End of Q3.  Vgchartz had 31 million.  I mean this is why you started that thread in the first place right?

How does this not make any sense?  End of Q3 for last fiscal year is Dec '09.  How is a 2.5 mil (I believe the norm is 1.5 - 2 mil) difference around the holidays, a time when companies push out more units for the higher demand strange to you?  Some were using this to imply VGC as wrong (though no tracker is 100% accurate), but you are looking at it in the reverse to say Sony is wrong or playing with their numbers.  In doing so, you are no better than the ones who pointed the blame at VGC. 

And, if I'm not mistaken, MS had about the same difference in shipped to sold.  Does that mean they are playing with their numbers, as well?

Well the fact that they also reported about a 5-7 million difference in PSP's and 9 million difference in PS2s for one... The shortages being another unless they were all just 240 gigs... and hey i'm just repeating what the people who actually chart the numbers have said.



I work for walmart... I actually unload the trucks and do inventory control and I can tell you right now that if you see PS3s on the shelf and there are the same numbers you probably have many more 360's in the electronic security room... we have a slightly lop sided ratio here, but I can't imagine it's to much better than the rest of the US. As for Wii's... I call bullshit on Nintendo... no Wiis left they told walmart and then our store get 35 of them? That sounds like Nintendo may be trying to create some artificial demand... it worked btw... I work at the Mt. Vernon, IL walmart... store 224 if you're interested... I can actually check any store if I have a store number and see how many of each system they are getting on their trucks

 

edit:  We got our first Splinter Cell 360 in on the 1st and the same amount of PS3s... of course I don't work every night, but I've not run into a truck with more than 3 or 6 PS3s in months(though I heard we had a truck with 9 last month right before GoW)



@ kowenicki

The only thing malicious going on within this thread is you and a small selection of usual suspects trying to derail this thread...



Naughty Dog: "At Naughty Dog, we're pretty sure we should be able to see leaps between games on the PS3 that are even bigger than they were on the PS2."

PS3 vs 360 sales