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@HappySqurriel

According to Malstrom, Nintendo is currently out for Sony´s blood...he says a lot of the moves Nintendo has been making are partially in response to Sony...and that 3DS would kinda be a preemptive attack.

But he never mentions Nintendo responding to Microsoft....do you think Malstrom´s right?...meaning, Nintendo sees Sony as a bigger threat than Microsoft....what do you think?



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joeorc said:
not only is is Apple that's applying pressure, but a big push is also from

ANDROID:

While in November 2009, the iPhone was responsible for 55 percent of U.S. smartphone requests, to Android’s 27 percent, by January 2010, those numbers adjusted to 47 percent for Apple and 38 percent Android. And in February 2010, the percentages slid again toward a more even 44 percent for the iPhone OS and 42 percent for Android.

iPhone Dominates but Android Is Fastest Growing OS: Report

http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Mobile-and-Wireless/iPhone-Dominates-but-Android-is-Fastest-Growing-OS-Report-374125/


This is talking about the most USED Operating System's for Smart phone's the fact that Even Sony itself has a some Android based Handset's is a pretty tell sign.

Take that report with a grain of salt. That's AdMob tracking their own ad requests, so don't expect it to be representative of actual usage. Furthermore, AdMob is owned by Google, so they're liable to have a bias towards Android devices.

I prefer to use NetMarketshare for impressions of OS/browser usage. Although they also have some issues, they're a more independant source:

http://marketshare.hitslink.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=8

Furthermore, Android hasn't yet proved to be a vibrant marketplace for new handheld content. Three of the top ten apps are emulators, which isn't going to look good to publishers. I've seen mobile publishers talk about backing off from Android development because the money isn't there yet.

More on topic, the 3DS is launching in 2011, seven years after the DS launch. The DS was launched at a time when GBA sales were still strong, so this isn't really out of character for Nintendo. They don't want to wait for the DS to die before they launch the 3DS. They feel that they have enough new hardware to offer a substantially improved handheld gaming experience, and they want to hold on to the momentum and pre-empt any competing devices by launching first.



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JGarret said:
@HappySqurriel

According to Malstrom, Nintendo is currently out for Sony´s blood...he says a lot of the moves Nintendo has been making are partially in response to Sony...and that 3DS would kinda be a preemptive attack.

But he never mentions Nintendo responding to Microsoft....do you think Malstrom´s right?...meaning, Nintendo sees Sony as a bigger threat than Microsoft....what do you think?


Sony has 2 consoles that sold over 100 million. They could've been neck to neck this genration of they released a Playstation 3 that was
$300 at launch. Now its too late for that. But you seen Japan. They are neck to neck thaere despite the higher sales in the past.
MS has yet been in first and be a huge threat in genral. They stole the PS audiunce really. Sony has a bigger name. Way bigger. They know
that they want to destroy them. They are the last wall between them and total domintion in the market like NES was in the console frount.
They plan to take away everything   from them. That's why you see them taking former sony excuesives and makeing them nintnedo excluesive
ex: Monster hunter 3 and Dragon quest.
there plan

Take away the user base check
destroy there software excluesives check
weaken them check
destroy them not check

That's there plan. They may not seem to act like it. Though by how they acted this generation. Its pretty obvious

As for MS, We yet see them build a console that can dominate. But We'll see what they got next generation



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JGarret said:
@HappySqurriel

According to Malstrom, Nintendo is currently out for Sony´s blood...he says a lot of the moves Nintendo has been making are partially in response to Sony...and that 3DS would kinda be a preemptive attack.

But he never mentions Nintendo responding to Microsoft....do you think Malstrom´s right?...meaning, Nintendo sees Sony as a bigger threat than Microsoft....what do you think?

While I don’t doubt that Nintendo is very conscience about creating a competitive advantage for their consoles, I don’t think they would release a system just to get the first mover advantage.



Also, just sort of thinking of this now, but the relatively quick launch of the 3DS puts Sony in a tough spot. Not just from the 3D angle, but also when you consider the fate of the PSP. The pressure is now on Sony to rush out their next handheld as well, or risk slipping further behind Nintendo in the handheld department.

On the other hand, if Sony DID rush out their next handheld in response to 3DS, they would in a way be conceding defeat of the PSP to the DS by cutting its life short. Although the PSP is dying quickly in the US anyway, it is still selling strong in Japan and decently in Europe, which are probably Sony's two strongest markets. So Nintendo is sort of putting Sony between a rock and a hard place with this move.



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Metallicube, getting a bit off topic here.... in another thread I think I remember you mentioned you don´t like Sony (if it was really you, sorry if I´m mistaken)...I´m just curious, why?...is it their whole 'copy everything' approach?..their PR?...all of that plus a few other things? :P



Because they think its a great product and with the DS name and the push for 3d in the cinema, television and now gaming its the perfect storm to release a 3d handheld?

The public is currently obsessed with 3d because of Avatar and theres not going to be a better time (ever probably) to capitalise on the 3d obsession because soon enough people will get over it since its already being milked by the film production houses who're realeasing poorly done 2d to 3d conversions.



Nintendo is very aggressive now, but lately Sony does a little less of the abysmal blunders it did at the beginning of this gen, losing its leadership. Shortages during periods of potentially excellent sales are still clumsy Sony style, though.
I hope nobody really believes Nintendo hasn't plans against MS, whoever underestimated its threat always got hurt and Nintendo knows it well.
I have a doubt, though: isn't directly attacking Sony "Red Ocean"?



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I don't know.
But Miyamoto probably has a very interesting new gameplay to show.
The tecnology is just a mean to present the game, not the way around.



JGarret said:
Metallicube, getting a bit off topic here.... in another thread I think I remember you mentioned you don´t like Sony (if it was really you, sorry if I´m mistaken)...I´m just curious, why?...is it their whole 'copy everything' approach?..their PR?...all of that plus a few other things? :P

I don't remember saying that, and I wouldn't say I don't like Sony. Where did I supposedly say this?

PS3 doesn't appeal to me, but I do think the PS2 is a great conosole with tons of great games. I guess you can say I'm just not the biggest fan of Sony's latest efforts and their arrogant attitude. And I'm not too fond of how they made fun of the Wiimote only to make their own version and act like they created it.