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Xoj on 28 March 2010
leo-j said:
I didn't know Sony invented the mobile music player =O

they make the first transistor radio, commercially viable and popular

 

though technology existed for years, they put it into a good use



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RareglovE on 28 March 2010

i feel sorry for patcher, for being pitiful



Fufinu on 28 March 2010

The device is popular in Japan and EU.

Once again US =/= WW



Severance on 28 March 2010

i remember having the huge CD walkman i was the most coolest guy in the world.
it was huge could barely fit on my pocket oh and it something amazing, play CD Roms!



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Squilliam on 28 March 2010
Mr Puggsly said:
Squilliam said:
Its just being outcompeted by specialist devices/other companies doing it better.

1. Gaming it gets crushed by the DS.
2. Music it gets crushed by iPhone, iTouch, iPod + other similar.
3. Movies is sort of half dead/half alive but I doubt it'll survive the launch of the iPad/Courier + others.

I don't really think piracy comes into it, the DS is infact even easier to pirate and the PC is easier again to pirate and yet games still sell.

1. For games it has a different appeal and capabilities. Games that sell well on the PSP might be ignored on the DS, and vice versa.

2. Its not a convenient device for music. You don't need a giant screen if you just want to listen to music.

3. There are lots of cheap devices that play movies now, but iPad is not the device that will crush the PSP. The iPad is still far more expensive than a PSP and too big for convenience.

I think people underestimate the PSP. It currently doesn't sell a ton of software, but its a very popular device.

1. It sells only a little over a third of the software of the DS with more expensive games and likely will be the fourth largest platform for game revenue behind DS, iSeries, Android by the end of the year and falling quickly. This doesn't give Sony a good position to relaunch the system for a PSP2 either especially with the 3DS stealing the limelight.

2. Its a portable media player, so that has to be a part of the package.

3. The PSP is about as inconvenient however as the iPad which has a larger screen and much more useful capabilies in a practical sense.

 



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Frazzl on 28 March 2010

Sony have sold over 60 million PSP units. That's hardly a failure. Sure they won't beat Nintendo but its not a bad first effort. The PSP Go was a pretty dumb idea though. Sony should focus on making better PORTABLE games for the PSP instead of shoddy PS2 type titles. That's where the DS really triumphs.



ZenfoldorVGI on 28 March 2010
psrock said:
ZenfoldorVGI said:
Well to be fair, I don't think he said that it is necessarily doomed, or on its own, a complete failure, but he did imply that other companies are doing better by getting sales that Sony should have gotten, had they been able to position themselves properly.

It's like the 3D thing. Nintendo is now going to eat Sony's lunch with the 3DS by having the first dedicated 3D gaming device on them market without the requirement to wear glasses or buy a new TV.

3D was Sony's gimmick, but can you imagine the 3DS(once it gets into the minds of the general public for its new 3D gimmick) not eventually selling a hundred million units? Once again, that was Sony's lunch. 3D. They just aren't going to get to the market with it, and by the time they do, it'll be old hat.

there will be so much crow eating in this site about this DS 3d THING. We are expecting so much.

So, you think that a Nintendo DS in 3D....won't be successful?

I'll eat crow if necessary, but it just seems to me like that's a better, and inevitably more popular gimmick than motion controls.

How does the thing not need glasses? WTF is next, is my phone going to be in 3D? You bet your ass. Nintendo is going to have the first device to incorporate that technology. Imagine the popularity of that in Wal-Mart. It's the perfect toy....kids will shit.

That's just my take.



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ZenfoldorVGI on 28 March 2010
Squilliam said:
ZenfoldorVGI said:
Well to be fair, I don't think he said that it is necessarily doomed, or on its own, a complete failure, but he did imply that other companies are doing better by getting sales that Sony should have gotten, had they been able to position themselves properly.

It's like the 3D thing. Nintendo is now going to eat Sony's lunch with the 3DS by having the first dedicated 3D gaming device on them market without the requirement to wear glasses or buy a new TV.

3D was Sony's gimmick, but can you imagine the 3DS(once it gets into the minds of the general public for its new 3D gimmick) not eventually selling a hundred million units? Once again, that was Sony's lunch. 3D. They just aren't going to get to the market with it, and by the time they do, it'll be old hat.

The 3DS is effectively a core gamer extension to the DS lineup which positions it right amid PSP territory. This is an attack on both the PSP and a PSP2 if it ever eventuates. Sony can no longer be considered a viable competitor to Nintendo in the handheld space because of it. They have to win the same battle of acceptance against steep pro DS odds if they ever want to release a PSP2. They won't have the benefit of people assuming success this time either.

As far as Sony and 3D gimmicks go, its their gimmick so long as a new console doesn't get released. A console could be released cheaper than the PS3 today with much more performance and the native enhancements required to do both 3D and Full HD simultainously and efficiently. They would stand to lose the most from a new console because many of their advantages exist only because they have a bleeding edge console relative to other consoles.  They also stand to gain the least from releasing a new console as well, so strategically they are vulnerable if either Microsoft or Nintendo decides that its in their best long term interests to release a next generation console in 2010/2011.

I think you just defined how the DS ate Sony's lunch. :P



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It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.

NO NO, NO NO NO.

Mr Puggsly on 28 March 2010
Squilliam said:
Mr Puggsly said:
Squilliam said:
Its just being outcompeted by specialist devices/other companies doing it better.

1. Gaming it gets crushed by the DS.
2. Music it gets crushed by iPhone, iTouch, iPod + other similar.
3. Movies is sort of half dead/half alive but I doubt it'll survive the launch of the iPad/Courier + others.

I don't really think piracy comes into it, the DS is infact even easier to pirate and the PC is easier again to pirate and yet games still sell.

1. For games it has a different appeal and capabilities. Games that sell well on the PSP might be ignored on the DS, and vice versa.

2. Its not a convenient device for music. You don't need a giant screen if you just want to listen to music.

3. There are lots of cheap devices that play movies now, but iPad is not the device that will crush the PSP. The iPad is still far more expensive than a PSP and too big for convenience.

I think people underestimate the PSP. It currently doesn't sell a ton of software, but its a very popular device.

1. It sells only a little over a third of the software of the DS with more expensive games and likely will be the fourth largest platform for game revenue behind DS, iSeries, Android by the end of the year and falling quickly. This doesn't give Sony a good position to relaunch the system for a PSP2 either especially with the 3DS stealing the limelight.

2. Its a portable media player, so that has to be a part of the package.

3. The PSP is about as inconvenient however as the iPad which has a larger screen and much more useful capabilies in a practical sense.

 

1. As long as its profitable for Sony and holds a fair share of the market why wouldn't they make a PSP2? The Droid and iSeries is only good for selling simple budget games. They don't receive outstanding support either. If the 3DS is a better multimedia device than the PSP than Sony has a problem.

2. My point is it doesn't make a good MP3 player because of the size. So I agree it gets crushed by other MP3 players.

3. Its still much larger and more expensive. iPad's biggest competition is probably netbooks.



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Sardauk on 28 March 2010
C_Hollomon said:
PSP sold 60 million. That is a success. The only thing I don't like is the games price. $40 for PSP games is too much to me. That's why people hack they PSP cause of the high price games. The PSP is high also. It been out for 5 years and it still cost to much. I think the PSP should be under $150 now.

40 $ is too much for a game ? You want it for free or what ?



 

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