The thing is the Wii is not a good console for gamers. Gamers like gameplay & graphics. The wii cannot deliever on either due to the pad delay and ancient graphics. Why would these people upgrade to another console? They are happy with what the wii offers, which frankly in comparison to the 360  and ps3 in terms of gaming, is very little, so why would they want more? They clearly dont care about graphics or gameplay, so as ive said before, unless Nintendo go down a VR route, their future console will not attract many of the wii owners.

Study business a little first?  Why don't you try studying grammar and spelling first... then maybe you'll "ge"  the market yourself.

Yes I am listening to myself, but obviously you're not.  Did you not read my example?  SMW2 sold NO WHERE NEAR what Mario 64 did.  Why?  Because at that time 3D design was in.  I know it and Nintendo knew it too.  You obviously have no idea what you're talking about, hiding behind the opinions of Christensen and people who actually do know what they're talking about in hopes of sounding like you have a clue yourself...

Depends. They can enjoy any genre they want, but games have criteria that if they do not fill, they will suck. If enemy AI is bad, then the game will present either an impossible challenge or none at all. The latter is only good for very young children who cannot deal with a challenge, and a challenge is essentialy what prevents boredom.
Also level design is another one. If all the levels look the same and are hard to navigate, no one in their right mind is going to find that enjoyable as it is a challenge for the wrong reasons, plus the chance of getting bored due to repetition is high, and boredom defeats the point of a game.
Another thing that should be done is all games should be compared to games of the same genre in the current market. For example, 10 years ago I'd have said that Perfect Dark is an outstanding FPS, but when comparing it to games nowadays, it looks bad, presents no challenge (resulting in boredom), crap voice acting and so on. Basically games should be looked at in comparison other games in it's genre. So in that respect LittleBigPlanet and Super Mario Galaxy are great platformers as they tick all the boxes, even if you are not a fan of platformers.

what about the gameplay in Super Mario galaxy, Monster hunter 3, Red steel 2, New super Mario Bros Wii etc etc do you not like? have you even played any of them for more than 5 minutes lol. And you still haven't replied to me old post is it because you can't find it oir just that you have no answer lol

All right, I'm glad you said that.

Now, there are certain qualities that people like in platformers that you don't value, right? It's part of why you don't care all that much for Ratchet and Clank. It is fair to say that something that someone else considers vital, you might not consider vital at all?

No idea what post you're on about, but the fact you didn't know FEAR was known for it's AI shows that you are not a gamer at all.

Super Mario Galaxy was fine, but the pad lag made it more awkard than it should have been. Haven't played the other two, as for NSMBW it's an abysmal game. The co-op is a test of patience and its a step back to crap. 2D? Thought we'd left that behind, as well as mindless lemming 'enemies'. Well saying that the game is cleartly aimed at children due to the lack of speech and 'cute' sounds, but so was LBP, and that was a game with far better platforming etc whilst presenting a good difficulty for old and new gamers, whilst offering level editing, co-op, online co-op etc. 

Not really....I don't enjoy Ratchet and Clank because I prefer my games to be serious and team based (online FPS'). I think all gamers hold the same things vital in games such as level design etc, but it's not vital for me that a game be serious, it's just my preference. I can't think of something in a game someone would hold as vital and another gamer would not. But note by gamer I mean someone 14ish - 20+, so in that sense a game for kids would obviously have different things vital (no violence, no horror etc) due to the way kids think.

Children are one of the bigger player groups of "serious" games, but we're getting off-track.

Let me level it for you. Suppose a person holds it vital that they have a tight, no-nonsense platforming experience, and any other values are derived from that. You do not share that value, right? The one that says that platforming is really important.

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well let me explain a few things, first just because consumers that never owned a console before were more attracted to the Wii than the HD consoles it doesn't mean that those same consumers won't be interested in a better version of the console they have, you are thinking about it from a old school gamer's point of view where because they didn't support the technically superior HD consoles that were just offering HD versions of the same games these people don't want a technically better version of their current console. just because consumers wren't interested in better specs before doesn't mean that in the future they won't be interested in a better version of the Wii, and much of it is with keeping up with the Joneses a lot of people are buying Wiis because people they know are buying them but if Nintendo offer a technologically superior and backwards compatible version, then those consumer will be more than happy to pay a little extra to not just keep up with the Joneses but sprint past them, additionally new consumers that own a new flash HD TV (a lot of people own them now) and they go to buy a Wii the shop assistant asks have you got a HD TV they reply yes and the shop assistant recommends Nintendos new console as it is HD, same could happen when someone buys a new HD TV. Admittedly this requires strategy relies on the Wii still being in high demand but it doesn't look like demand is going anywhere soon and it is just a couple of ways of getting new customers to new the "Wii2" console without even whatever new thing Nintendo brings with their new console.

As for bringing over people that already bought a Wii other than better specs there is also new games especially sequels to games like Wii fit (sold 22.56m copies), new super Mario bros (sold 13.03m copies on the Wii), Super smash bros (sold 9.39m on the Wii) not bad sales for a console where half the owners don't buy games as they are casuals who are happy with Wii sports or use it as a dust collector man there must be some dedicated fans to buy all those games. These sequels along side some new IP and some classic franchises and a lot of current Wii owners will make the jump to the next generation especially when you advertise it as being able to play all your old Wii games in HD as well as new Games that look much better. "

there you go 

oh and where did I say I din't know FEAR was known fear was known to have good AI what I am saying is the AI is not why everyone who I know liked it or purchase it because of the AI. Also there is a difference between scripted AI (follows a liner set of actions eg take cover fire take cover throw grenade repeat) and dynamic AI that analises the surroundings and reacts to events in real time and executing a set of scripted AI. Metro 2033 has some of the most interesting AI in a long time (I have read some of the white papers on it) the stuff like simulating true line of site and hearing, multiple alert levels etc

do you even know what smw2 was? it had a baby mario in it, and you played as the yoshi. the gameplay was vastly different from the first smw. there was more of a focus on collecting things, which was a precurser to the star hunting 3d marios. when the game game out, many people complained that it was not the same, and that it strayed too far from mario. it wasn't a mario game, it was a joshi game. it didn't sell not because it was a 3d mario, but because it wasn't a mario game at all.

to compare this to shooters, the earlier marios were like shoot-em-up fps's, while this new game was a stealth fps. it was vastly different, and many people did not like it.