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What do you think of save points?

Love them 8 20.00%
 
Archaic mechanic 8 20.00%
 
They have their places 24 60.00%
 
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Joel12345 on 24 March 2010

Depends on the game,That is all



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Khuutra on 24 March 2010
twesterm said:
Rainbird said:
They're useless. I thought it was weird that they were in God of War when there is in fact a nice Autosave/checkpoint system already implemented, but I suppose it's so the player can create saves they can come back to at a later point. Stig Asmussen said that the only reason the system was in was because they didn't have the time to implement a "Chapter" system properly.

In other words, I don't understand why we still have it.

Yeah, but why not just allow us to save then?

God of War does have a checkpoint system, but if you quit at a checkpoint and don't save, you have to go back to your last save (or at least you do in God of War 2).  Why not just do what the good thing is and let us continue from the last checkpoint?

As for you RPG people, why would you prefer a save point system rather than something like Mass Effect where you can save anytime?

It depends. With save points, you can set it up so that save points serve as a safe spot and heal zone, so that you don't save in the middle of an area and put yourself in an unwinnable situation and have to start the whole game over.

Think the dungeons in Final Fantasy 6. Their save points were places to use tents, and also places to take a break. They were good in that game, yeah? Well-designed, well-implemented?



1337 Gamer on 24 March 2010

hate em. I like being able to save whenever you want. So much easier.



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alekth on 24 March 2010
Darc Requiem said:
alekth said:
I want to keep them around, mostly. Automatic saving also usually robs me of 1) the option to have multiple saves to be able to go back to a specific part (games with just one save file do that as well though), and 2) saving, doing whatever, not liking the outcome and redoing it.

Though I think all games should have (or, the console itself should have) a suspend function, I hate being in a hurry and running around looking for a save point.

No they don't. Not if done correctly. Dragon Age is a good example. The game auto saves, has four slots for it to be more exact, but allows you to save pretty much anywhere (as long as there aren't any mobs in the area). So if you don't like the auto save you can load up your last save.

Well, I don't have objections to a game having both options, in that case auto-save is a nice convenience in case of unexpected deaths.

I'm also all for being able to save wherever. Though I don't usually mind having to redo stuff a bit, a bit being key since I wan't happy at all with the save points in Star Ocean (it starts getting ridiculous when you can only do endgame during the weekend).

Also my main problem with a lot of the handhelds RPGs, and especially converted PS1 games on the PSP.



RageBot on 24 March 2010

Save points add to the challange of the game, however, the main problem with checlpoints is that they don't allow you to quit whenever you want.

Games with checkpoints need to implement a system that allows you to quit the game whenever you want and than return to that exact spot when you come back to the game, that way the challange remains and you can stop playing whenever you want.



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twesterm on 24 March 2010
Khuutra said:
twesterm said:
Rainbird said:
They're useless. I thought it was weird that they were in God of War when there is in fact a nice Autosave/checkpoint system already implemented, but I suppose it's so the player can create saves they can come back to at a later point. Stig Asmussen said that the only reason the system was in was because they didn't have the time to implement a "Chapter" system properly.

In other words, I don't understand why we still have it.

Yeah, but why not just allow us to save then?

God of War does have a checkpoint system, but if you quit at a checkpoint and don't save, you have to go back to your last save (or at least you do in God of War 2).  Why not just do what the good thing is and let us continue from the last checkpoint?

As for you RPG people, why would you prefer a save point system rather than something like Mass Effect where you can save anytime?

It depends. With save points, you can set it up so that save points serve as a safe spot and heal zone, so that you don't save in the middle of an area and put yourself in an unwinnable situation and have to start the whole game over.

Think the dungeons in Final Fantasy 6. Their save points were places to use tents, and also places to take a break. They were good in that game, yeah? Well-designed, well-implemented?

I don't know if I ever dug myself in such a deep hole in a FF game that I couldn't get myself out of.  The only time I've ever done something like that was Saga Frontier which was a save point game.

And even with the healing thing, doesn't FFXIII auto heal you after battles?

Also, that's good to hear that God of War 3 allows you to start the game from your last checkpoint.  That has been one of my gripes about the first two games I'm glad they fixed. 



 

Khuutra on 24 March 2010
twesterm said:

I don't know if I ever dug myself in such a deep hole in a FF game that I couldn't get myself out of.  The only time I've ever done something like that was Saga Frontier which was a save point game.

And even with the healing thing, doesn't FFXIII auto heal you after battles?

Also, that's good to hear that God of War 3 allows you to start the game from your last checkpoint.  That has been one of my gripes about the first two games I'm glad they fixed. 

You didn't answer the question.

And yeah, having a hard drive will do that for you.



twesterm on 24 March 2010
Khuutra said:
twesterm said:

I don't know if I ever dug myself in such a deep hole in a FF game that I couldn't get myself out of.  The only time I've ever done something like that was Saga Frontier which was a save point game.

And even with the healing thing, doesn't FFXIII auto heal you after battles?

Also, that's good to hear that God of War 3 allows you to start the game from your last checkpoint.  That has been one of my gripes about the first two games I'm glad they fixed. 

You didn't answer the question.

And yeah, having a hard drive will do that for you.

Whoops, sorry, meant to just skipped my mind.  >_>

I think they were about as well implented as they could be.  The ones where save points are used as rest areas and you can save on world maps are about the best ones out there I think but I'd still rather have something different.

I don't really think a save anytime system would work in FFVI but FFVI also wasn't really designed for that.

Also, I totally forgot about considering hard drives.  That totally makes sense and feel silly for not thinking of that.



 

Faxanadu on 24 March 2010

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Darc Requiem on 24 March 2010
alekth said:
Darc Requiem said:
alekth said:
I want to keep them around, mostly. Automatic saving also usually robs me of 1) the option to have multiple saves to be able to go back to a specific part (games with just one save file do that as well though), and 2) saving, doing whatever, not liking the outcome and redoing it.

Though I think all games should have (or, the console itself should have) a suspend function, I hate being in a hurry and running around looking for a save point.

No they don't. Not if done correctly. Dragon Age is a good example. The game auto saves, has four slots for it to be more exact, but allows you to save pretty much anywhere (as long as there aren't any mobs in the area). So if you don't like the auto save you can load up your last save.

Well, I don't have objections to a game having both options, in that case auto-save is a nice convenience in case of unexpected deaths.

I'm also all for being able to save wherever. Though I don't usually mind having to redo stuff a bit, a bit being key since I wan't happy at all with the save points in Star Ocean (it starts getting ridiculous when you can only do endgame during the weekend).

Also my main problem with a lot of the handhelds RPGs, and especially converted PS1 games on the PSP.

Yeah. Bioware seems to have a good handle on the save situation. ME2 goes a step further. If you can restart the last mission from the beginning after completion. It's come in handy for me, especially when i didn't like the choices I made.