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mirgro on 24 March 2010
theprof00 said:
I dunno? Why do people say "I will never buy a ps3 or any sony product because sony BMG had DRM in some music cds which I never bought"?

People like to hate on sony.

Out fo all the bullshit reasons you could have come up with that people use not to buy SONY you hit upon the one that is very legit and a really good reason why people shouldn't buy SONY.

 

OT:

Natal is indeed a copy of eyetoy as much as the Move is a copy of the Wii, which is a whole lot. However the Natal project has more functionality than the Move has over the Wii.



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nightsurge on 24 March 2010
Carl2291 said:
nightsurge said:
Carl2291 said:
dsister44 said:

Because "The Move" is almost an exact replica of the Wiimote. And the only similarities between Natal and the eyetoy are purely on the outside.

Move is a rounded "wand" shape. Wii Remote is a block-like "Remote" shape. Move has a big coloured ball on the end. Wii Remote doesn't. Move needs a camera to work. Wii Remote doesn't. Move has a wireless Nunchuck. Wii Remote doesn't.

All I see is:  Move has a remote, Wii has a remote.  Move has a nunchuck, Wii has a nunchuck.  Move uses a camera, Wii uses a camera (in the Wiimote itself).

Eyetoy is a camera. Natal is a camera. Dream Eye came before Eyetoy, though so...

EyeToy is a camera.  MS Vision Cam is a camera.  Both only capture color changes in 2D space.  Natal is a Camera + Infrared pulse sensor for standard color change and 3D motion capture and microphone for voice input.  Also, Natal has the powerhouse software behind it that does all the complex calculations that neither EyeToy nor Vision Cam had.

OT:
I have said this myself. I've seen a few people from the MS fanbase (most of them have been quiet about the whole thing though) try trolling on the PS Move for being a "Wii clone". Yet i will see those very same people defend Natal when it's time in the spotlight comes. Amusing really.

Wii mote and Move do almost entirely the same things.  Both are 1:1 (with WM+), both have a very similar sports game package, the only thing different that Sony's can do is basically the video overlay stuff.

EyeToy and MS Vision Cam can do the same things.  But neither can capture 48 points on a persons body and track the movemonts of those points in 3D space, even in the dark.

And the only thing amusing is how certain people of the Sony fanbase deny the incredible similarities of Move and Wiimote, but try to generalize Natal and EyeToy to be the same when there are far more differences in both capabilities and hardware.

So what you are saying is, Natal is sort of like an "upgrade" on the Eyetoy/ PS Eye?

Erm... Isn't that JUST what the PS Move is seen as over the Wii Remote...?

It can be seen as some sort of upgrade, but really its more of a generational leap while the Move is more of a simple hardware revision of the Wiimote.  The capabilities of the Wiimote/Move are nearly indistinguishable except for maybe 1 or 2 features of Move such as video overlay.

I do agree with the other poster that we need to see more examples of Natal in use.  Hopefully MS at E3 will answer our requests!



theprof00 on 24 March 2010
mirgro said:
theprof00 said:
I dunno? Why do people say "I will never buy a ps3 or any sony product because sony BMG had DRM in some music cds which I never bought"?

People like to hate on sony.

Out fo all the bullshit reasons you could have come up with that people use not to buy SONY you hit upon the one that is very legit and a really good reason why people shouldn't buy SONY.

 

OT:

Natal is indeed a copy of eyetoy as much as the Move is a copy of the Wii, which is a whole lot. However the Natal project has more functionality than the Move has over the Wii.

I actually refuse to buy Nintendo because of Pearl Harbor.

Every company fucks up, that is no reason to ban everything they are involved with. Especially when SONY BMG is independant from the other SONY Companies.

Internet explorer was so bad and hackable that I now refuse to buy a blutooth MS mouse. That's the same argument too.



jesus kung fu magic on 24 March 2010

The move is a cash-in, it is essentially copying the market leader and looks identical to it also ......cash-ins always get rediculed.

 Natal is improving on something which were commercial failures in the past, this is not a cash-in as it is just picking up dead tech and making it relevant again for 2010.

Im really surprised that people question why sony is getting the redicule they are getting......they we the leading advocates inhow the wii was a fad , and constatly belittled the machine (even the DS was subjected to this)just to satisfy their ego. Then they come out with a near carbon copy to the wiimote? IF you henstly dont think that deserves some hate then something is wrong with you.

 



N64 is the ONLY console of the fifth generation!!!

Bamboleo on 24 March 2010

yet another thread about this x_X



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Squilliam on 24 March 2010
RareglovE said:

Firstly that the title you see was just the top of my head so bear with it

Secondly, straight to the point, since the reveal of the MOVE people in the gaming circle have been looking down on it because it looks, feel and does the same thing like the Wii mote but that doesnot meanits the exact replica (take for example twins just because on the outside they look the same it does not mean on the inside they r the same) , now here comes Natal, how come its that only a few would voice out on how its a rip off or an upgrade version of the eyetoy which in fact its almost the same.

Why the f**king biasness dont people see it.

anyways i just wanted to see the responds here on what people think.

People are looking down upon Sony for making it because of the comments about the Wii they made in the previous 4 years. Had they shut their traps there would have been little to comment about.



Tease.

forest-spirit on 24 March 2010

It's great fanboy ammo!

And be prepared for more, because I am already seeing some hatred between fanboys because of the announcement of 3DS, and when Microsoft shows more of Natal on E3 I bet you will have a Eye Toy vs Natal war also.



Carl on 24 March 2010
jesus kung fu magic said:

The move is a cash-in, it is essentially copying the market leader and looks identical to it also ......cash-ins always get rediculed.

 Natal is improving on something which were commercial failures in the past, this is not a cash-in as it is just picking up dead tech and making it relevant again for 2010.

Im really surprised that people question why sony is getting the redicule they are getting......they we the leading advocates inhow the wii was a fad , and constatly belittled the machine (even the DS was subjected to this)just to satisfy their ego. Then they come out with a near carbon copy to the wiimote? IF you henstly dont think that deserves some hate then something is wrong with you.

"Some" - Yes.

The amount of hate, trolling and flaming since it was revealed - No.



                            

forest-spirit on 24 March 2010
Squilliam said:
RareglovE said:

Firstly that the title you see was just the top of my head so bear with it

Secondly, straight to the point, since the reveal of the MOVE people in the gaming circle have been looking down on it because it looks, feel and does the same thing like the Wii mote but that doesnot meanits the exact replica (take for example twins just because on the outside they look the same it does not mean on the inside they r the same) , now here comes Natal, how come its that only a few would voice out on how its a rip off or an upgrade version of the eyetoy which in fact its almost the same.

Why the f**king biasness dont people see it.

anyways i just wanted to see the responds here on what people think.

People are looking down upon Sony for making it because of the comments about the Wii they made in the previous 4 years. Had they shut their traps there would have been little to comment about.

This is a huge part of the problem. If you call something a fad and then some years later makes the "almost" same thing then of course you will hear some complaints. It's hypocricy, and most people dislike it.



Joel12345 on 24 March 2010

I think MOVE is getting Ape Escape so I'm down with MOVE