Of course, you're right, but I think everyone knows that so I didn't write it in my post...

See, I agree with this man.  I still love the game, I just don't see it as the graphics king.

Thanks for this Wagram. People seem to forget how powerful and FLEXIBLE the Unreal tech is. Unreal games: Bioshock, Gears 1 and 2, Batman: AA, Lost Odyssey, Mass Effect 1 and 2, these could all be considered AAA games (I know LO isn't according to Meta, but any JRPG fan would say it is), 2 of them are two of the top 5 or 6 rated (HD) games of this gen. Why would we underestimate the people that made an engine that can do that?

When I saw the title, Cliffy B, it made me think of Biffy Clyro, haha.

There's a good chance they'll beat the graphics of Uncharted 2 by the time it's released, however, I think Uncharted 3, or heck, Killzone 3 would take the graphics crown afterwards.

yeah the thread is not what one would think it is.  The tournament looks fun but it's just based on voting not the fun discussion you were having.

This thread is a good indication of what VGChartz has become as of late.

Yes they can beat it i have no doubt, but how many years later because we dont have any image or even confirmation about GoW3.

Its great to see everybody trying to beat Naughty, trying to beat what Naughty do in 2009, now we will see what can Naughty delivery in 2011.

There is rarely any good discussion going on anymore.  The only threads seeing any action are flamebait ones.  And, taking this thread as an example, flamebait ones that are completely wrong and misleading.

I don't even think the 360 is capable of achieving UC2 level graphics but imo GoW III is graphics king atm and I cannot see any 360 game touching that EVER (graphically).

There is some solid discussion occasionly, but yeah, tons of flamebait on the chartz. Doesn't help that his site is basically built around console wars.