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darthdevidem01 on 18 March 2010
--OkeyDokey-- said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
darthdevidem01 said:
Akvod said:

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=104356&page=1&str=790599283#

 

Bad Company 2 sold over 2.3 million units, please correct OP, OP.

If the OP decides to take this as sold to consumers then I would like the OP to also believe in Square-enix's statement that FF13 is the "fastest selling FF to date int he west" (something he clearly disputed in his last sentence in the OP).

You can't take one company's statement to mean "sold" & the others to mean shipped.

 

It was already established that number is including two weeks, not shipped versus sold.

--OkeyDokey-- said:
LordTheNightKnight said:
I'm not discussing worldwide, so don't pretend this makes this moot, especially since I'm not calling FFXIII a flop (most certainly is not).

Well, Japan has a lot to do with FF being a big blockbuster franchise. In Japan alone on PS3 alone, FFXIII sold 1.5 million first week compared to 1.2 million worldwide for Bad Company 2 on a userbase more than 10 times as large.

 That still isn't relevant to this thread.

What are you even trying to argue here? That FF isn't as big in the west as it used to be? We don't have any numbers to support that. So what is the point of this thread?

Exactly

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SaviorX on 18 March 2010

FPSs/gorefests/brutal action are the only things that people in the 14-34 demographic play this gen anyways.

At my school, there is a policy between guys that they do not play "Asian-made" games. I'm the only one that does. And NOTHING from last gen except Halo 2 is ever played.



Leatherhat on July 6th, 2012 3pm. Vita sales:"3 mil for COD 2 mil for AC. Maybe more. "  thehusbo on July 6th, 2012 5pm. Vita sales:"5 mil for COD 2.2 mil for AC."

steverhcp02 on 18 March 2010

that is pretty crazy. Pretty soon RPG's will start selling more in Japan than shooters.




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LordTheNightKnight on 18 March 2010

"What are you even trying to argue here?"

What makes you think I'm trying to argue anything? I'm trying to discuss.



A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.

Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs

Hyruken on 18 March 2010

All it means is Final Fantasy is not a HUGE game outside of Japan. Just like Battlefield 2 is not a HUGE game in Japan.

Being two different genres makes no difference. Fable 2 sold over 1m in it's first week. I bet Fallout 3's figures were close to that as were games like Dragon Age and Mass Effect 2. Meaning RPG games can sell well outside of Japan.

My opinion is we as a community hype games to an unbelievable level. When in reality the vast majority of gamers out there who won these consoles could not give a monkies for those franchises. I believe outside of Japan Final Fantasy is one of those games.

More people are interested in blowing stuff up then playing a story driven game. That to me is the way it has always been.



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LordTheNightKnight on 18 March 2010

"All it means is Final Fantasy is not a HUGE game outside of Japan."

Except it was, especially in the PS1 days.



A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.

Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs

Huya on 18 March 2010

Yea FFXIII bombed big time, I guess Square is pulling the plug damn you microsoft



LordTheNightKnight on 18 March 2010
Huya said:
Yea FFXIII bombed big time, I guess Square is pulling the plug damn you microsoft

Sarcastic agreement fails when it's not a point we are making here.



A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.

Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs

burning_phoneix on 18 March 2010
Hyruken said:
All it means is Final Fantasy is not a HUGE game outside of Japan. Just like Battlefield 2 is not a HUGE game in Japan.

Err...No? How can a title that sells more or less 3 million copies outside of Japan consistently not be considered huge?



FaRmLaNd on 18 March 2010
LordTheNightKnight said:
"Final Fantasy simply is the biggest JRPG franchise in the West that isn't pokemon (which is really hard to classify as a JRPG or WRPG since it lacks a lot of the distinct characteristics of both)"

Doesn't it sell better than even western RPGs? I mean, the bestselling I can think of are Oblivion and Fallout 3, but if I missed some, please let me know.

As for all the comments, it seems the general idea is this showing how much the FPS market has grown this generation, while the RPG market isn't that hot right now.

Depends on the genre of RPG. If we're taking mmorpgs into account wow has sold more then any Final Fantasy ever released. Diablo 2 had sold 4 million by 2001 and we all know Blizzard games have great legs so its sales (this is speculation) would probably be challening FF sales by now. But yes unless we're taking a game like Oblivion (which sells well on many platforms) into account then yes FF outside of Pokemon sells better then most Western RPGs worldwide. Though this wont last forever as the WRPG genre is selling better and better seemingly each year. Diablo 3 for example should be absolutely massive and probably do better then 2 did.