I think they would of released it... It just wouldn't look like it does, wouldn't have those acelometors or whatever and would pretty much just be tracking movement via the camera.

Also, it likely would of got little to no advertisment, very few developers would be working on it and would of been as ignored as the Eye Toy.

Also by the way... if you consider the Eye toy the sole gensis of the PS Move... Sony was still coping...

Since the Eye Toy was a ripoff of the "Dream Eye" for the Dreamcast.  They didn't even really change the name all that much.

kaz that´s how i would see it release if ninty hadnt made wii, with little to no advertisement just like the ps eye (but I still doubt they would have released it). by the way I had no idea about the dream eye. now thats a rip off

Carl2291 said: I think Sony will wait and see what the masses think of the 3rd party support before they beg for mercy @joeorc. Great, great posts. Notice how nobody really tries to argue with you though, eh?

For good reason. Before you go claiming that he somehow owned everyone in this thread, let me bite the hook and say this:

All that data he posted and the epicly long wall of text he linked to that corresponds to it is irrelevant.

It is irrelevant for the simple fact that Sony did nothing with it all that R&D. In fact, instead of pulling a Nintendo, and saying, "we dabbled in the idea but weren't interested in it" they outright rejected motion controls, and the people who wish to use it (The "Casuals" women, children, senior citizens, etc.) over the course of this entire generation.

Only now that they decided to jump on the bandwagon, several years later, do they wish to praise MC. Now suddenly, Sony devs want to use motion, or "respect" Nintendo for starting the trend. Last time I checked, Wiis belonged in closets to collect more dust than Oreck vaccums and was supposed to have its bubble burst a LONG time ago.

Why join into a 'fad' if the concept behind it will soon 'fail'? Carl2291, if you honestly believe in your heart, that Sony is somehow ANY way original in their conception of Move at this point.....I'd be truly speechless.

SaviorX said: Carl2291 said: I think Sony will wait and see what the masses think of the 3rd party support before they beg for mercy @joeorc. Great, great posts. Notice how nobody really tries to argue with you though, eh? For good reason. Before you go claiming that he somehow owned everyone in this thread, let me bite the hook and say this: All that data he posted and the epicly long wall of text he linked to that corresponds to it is irrelevant. It is irrelevant for the simple fact that Sony did nothing with it all that R&D. In fact, instead of pulling a Nintendo, and saying, "we dabbled in the idea but weren't interested in it" they outright rejected motion controls, and the people who wish to use it (The "Casuals" women, children, senior citizens, etc.) over the course of this entire generation. Only now that they decided to jump on the bandwagon, several years later, do they wish to praise MC. Now suddenly, Sony devs want to use motion, or "respect" Nintendo for starting the trend. Last time I checked, Wiis belonged in closets to collect more dust than Oreck vaccums and was supposed to have its bubble burst a LONG time ago. Why join into a 'fad' if the concept behind it will soon 'fail'? Carl2291, if you honestly believe in your heart, that Sony is somehow ANY way original in their conception of Move at this point.....I'd be truly speechless.

I'd say hes slightly on the Blind side.

Sony tried and "failed" with Sixaxis after completely bad mouthing Nintendo's motion controls 

then charged their gamers after re-introducing dual shock! (a gaming standard at this point)

now they've jumped on the motion bandwagon. and traced the Wii mote!

I wonder if they still see the Wii as a FAD or as a market leader?

I don't.

But i do think that the reaction from the Nintendo fanbase regarding the PS Move has been... Pathetic, to say the least.

no one said anything when MS made the "Avatars" =s this is getting out of hands.

@Savior: Those finds are golden my friend. You singlehandedly made this thread hilarious.

As for the OP: Hypocrisy is I think the reason why many feel the way you do. It is shameless on one hand. But its also a business reaction on the other. However, Sony (and MS) are dabbing in uncharted waters with MC. Nintendo's had years to gain experience and have really been the ONLY company to really have software that utilizes this MC and resonate with a wide audience.

There will be backlash from their existing fanbase as well. Unless they are just totally sheep. but Sony PR has convinced them that MC were bad and a fad by echoing this for years. Now you begin seeing the switch in attitude on forums which is the work of viral marketers in my opinion.

The fanbase seems largely to still not care about MC's and are really just hoping it succeeds in propelling PS3 sales or best case scenario (fantasy land thinking) kill the Wii.

People said stuff, they didn't make thread after thread about it though. Or raid every thread regarding avatars.

Think im gonna contact naz about the moderation actually...

Nintendo cannot Sue Sony over it and Nintendo know's exactly why, because sony had a patant application on this very same type of controll scheme bach in 2005 2 month's even before the first Wiimote was even first unvailed, at TGS 2 month's later.

nor

could Sony sue Nintendo because they showed concept's to their inner development team's prior to even 2004

it's one of those thing's where both were working on the exact same concept. at the exact same time it's wierd but it happens.

Sony though put their's on a back burnner to see how well the Nintendo technology would do.

LoL I Agree!