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yo_john117 said:
ymeaga1n said:
Won't happen. Really guys, I'm a x360 fan and your predictions are making all of us look bad. I can give you a nice list of a bunch of games that didn't outsell the game they followed on the PS2 even though install base was doubled.

MGS2 was released when there was 15.5m PS2 install base and sold 5.58m copies. MSG3 (the prequel like Reach will be) had a 73.5m PS2 install base and only sold 4m copies.

Lemme put it this way... a friend of mine and I are not that interested in getting Halo Reach. YOU'RE TELLING ME that you are going to find 2 people that DIDN'T buy Halo 3 that are going to go buy Halo Reach???

Come on, lets get real. It's a prequel!



Oh don't worry, one day you'll go over to a friend that has ODST and play the beta a bit, and when you do you'll realize that Reach will have the definitive MP ever to grace any game.  And that the campaign itself will be absurdly amazing.

Just a note: the majority of Halo players buy Halo's for the MP, not the single player.

BS...Halo 1 sold 6.45m with no MP. 




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BenVTrigger said:
@Solid_Raiden

I don't see anyone in here saying that if Reach doesn't sell as much as Halo 3 it won't be a success, just there is alot of evidence to support higher sales for Reach.

Many opinions does not equal evidence. Historical trends...like major prequels never outselling the game the follow, regardless of install base, is better evidence. 




ymeaga1n said:
yo_john117 said:
ymeaga1n said:
Won't happen. Really guys, I'm a x360 fan and your predictions are making all of us look bad. I can give you a nice list of a bunch of games that didn't outsell the game they followed on the PS2 even though install base was doubled.

MGS2 was released when there was 15.5m PS2 install base and sold 5.58m copies. MSG3 (the prequel like Reach will be) had a 73.5m PS2 install base and only sold 4m copies.

Lemme put it this way... a friend of mine and I are not that interested in getting Halo Reach. YOU'RE TELLING ME that you are going to find 2 people that DIDN'T buy Halo 3 that are going to go buy Halo Reach???

Come on, lets get real. It's a prequel!



Oh don't worry, one day you'll go over to a friend that has ODST and play the beta a bit, and when you do you'll realize that Reach will have the definitive MP ever to grace any game.  And that the campaign itself will be absurdly amazing.

Just a note: the majority of Halo players buy Halo's for the MP, not the single player.

BS...Halo 1 sold 6.45m with no MP. 

Cough*system link*Cough  



yo_john117 said:
ymeaga1n said:
BenVTrigger said:

Just for the record you do realize this is the Story of Noble Team and not Blue Team correct?  In other words this game has litteraly nothing to do with the book other than it takes place during the Fall of Reach.  We know what happened to John, Kelly, Linda and the rest but we have no idea what happened to Noble 6, Carter, Jorge and the rest of Team Noble.  This story is complely new and untold.

More like the book had shit to do with Reach. Never talks about what happens on Reach just that all the spartans aside from MC went there to fight. But since Reach fell and no other spartans appeared in any of the Halo games we can assume they died. 

Noble 6? Carter? Jorge? As a fan that played all 3 Halo game and read some books I don't even know who the heck those ppl are. And I've been on vgc for a years. I like to think I know more about game characters than casual FPS fans. If it's a new and untold story...shouldn't we be expecting sales along the lines of Halo 1??

Did Halo 1 have ONLINE multiplayer? or Forge, and theater? How about firefight? And did the Xbox have as big as an install base as the 360 has when Halo 1 came out?

If you can answer these questions you will begin to understand.

Did you not read the entire last sentence or what I was replying too? Let me highlight it in red for you. Don't pick apart my discussion with someone else.




Halo Reach is going to reach for astronmical units. Even if it doesn't outsell Halo 3 (and thats a big if) it should be really close... I wish I had Live to play Halo 3 online....




              

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what a nice and friendly thread.........NOT

Anyway I'm sure Reach will outsell Halo 3 by about a million when everything is said and done, but will fall short of MW2
(Halo 3 - 12.5m < Halo Reach - 13.5m < MW2 - 14.5m)
Something like that.



Seece said:
CGI-Quality said:
Microsoft will market the living bejeezus out of it. It will do Halo 3 numbers if nothing else, which is still a massive success.

Yup, MW2 doing 5 million first week shows the scope sales can reach on a games first week.

I think you know that MW brand is much more powerful than Halo brand



ymeaga1n said:
yo_john117 said:
ymeaga1n said:
BenVTrigger said:

Just for the record you do realize this is the Story of Noble Team and not Blue Team correct?  In other words this game has litteraly nothing to do with the book other than it takes place during the Fall of Reach.  We know what happened to John, Kelly, Linda and the rest but we have no idea what happened to Noble 6, Carter, Jorge and the rest of Team Noble.  This story is complely new and untold.

More like the book had shit to do with Reach. Never talks about what happens on Reach just that all the spartans aside from MC went there to fight. But since Reach fell and no other spartans appeared in any of the Halo games we can assume they died. 

Noble 6? Carter? Jorge? As a fan that played all 3 Halo game and read some books I don't even know who the heck those ppl are. And I've been on vgc for a years. I like to think I know more about game characters than casual FPS fans. If it's a new and untold story...shouldn't we be expecting sales along the lines of Halo 1??

Did Halo 1 have ONLINE multiplayer? or Forge, and theater? How about firefight? And did the Xbox have as big as an install base as the 360 has when Halo 1 came out?

If you can answer these questions you will begin to understand.

Did you not read the entire last sentence or what I was replying too? Let me highlight it in red for you. Don't pick apart my discussion with someone else.

Yeah I read it, and I don't care.  My point stands.



Of course it'll do better than Halo 3. Halo 3 was apparently the biggest disappointment eva, or so people tell me. Since Halo: Reach will correct all those glaring flaws in Halo 3 it'll struggle to do more than 15M IMO.

I'll put it this way:

Halo with regenerating shields+armour = Disapointing.

Halo with standard health + regenerating armour = Epic.

This is going to be the Epic Halo because my logic is infallible.



Do you know what its like to live on the far side of Uranus?

pizzahut451 said:
Seece said:
CGI-Quality said:
Microsoft will market the living bejeezus out of it. It will do Halo 3 numbers if nothing else, which is still a massive success.

Yup, MW2 doing 5 million first week shows the scope sales can reach on a games first week.

I think you know that MW brand is much more powerful than Halo brand

On Xbox? No it isn't ...