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bayonetta and dark cloud are way overrated. those game arent that good. (i know that dark cloud has nothing to do with this thread, but ive been wanting to say that for a long time. :)



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ZenfoldorVGI said:
psrock said:
ZenfoldorVGI said:
Here's the thing. Bayonetta is a AAA game that despite not having the graphical capabilities of GoWIII, did enough to push the genre forward to stand out as a AAA title by itself. You will see ideas from Bayonetta in God of War IV.

Now, I'm not sure, but it is very likely that the formula for GoWIII is very similar to its predecessors.

I can't speak for GoWIII's review score, but imo, Bayonetta on the Xbox 360, was as perfect as an action game can get. It innovated, it didn't take itself seriously, and it had amazing set pieces and the deepest combat system yet invented in a game, while still managing to be relatively userfriendly.

I think it's obvious to a lot of reviewers why Edge, and Famitsu, and a ton of other sites gave Bayonetta a perfect score. I mean, it IS a AAA game afterall, and it didn't need graphics or hype to achieve that, so WTF, why the hate? Just because you don't get it doesn't mean it's not there to get. For instance, I never will understand why God of War is so popular.

I got a chance to play some Bayonetta on the 360. A lot of fun, almost too powerful, weird like. But one thing is clear, It's no AAA game. Maybe the next will be, hope they slap a better story though.

The only thing that's clear in this instance, is it's commonly accepted that a game with a score of 90 or greater on Metacritic is considered a "Triple-A game" on this and most of the internet, and Bayonetta does have a score of 90 percent on Xbox 360, so whatever your opinion might be, it doesn't change the fact that Bayonetta for the 360 is generally accepted as AAA by the most common definition.

Your opinion, or mine, doesn't matter in this instance. Now, I'm sure you've mistaken either my intent when I called it AAA, as me stating an opinion, or perhaps you weren't aware, or cared to refute the most commonly accepted definion of "AAA" but either way, you'd have been wrong in my humble opinion.

This is probably a simple mistake. However, if you wished to stick to your guns, let me say this. To me, anything can seem clear. It is clear to me that God of War isn't a very good game, and it is clear to me that the Playstation 3 has tons of overhyped and mediocre exclusives as does the Xbox 360. It is clear to me that PC gaming's graphical advantages are vastly overhyped while the disadvantages of the platform are ignored, waved off, or downplayed, and that these inconsistancies are never refuted due to console gamer ignorance. It is clear to me that motion controls aren't all they were hyped up to be, and they are mainly targeted towards casual gamers. It is clear to me that Nintendo games aren't as good as they used to be, and it is clear to me that most people in this thread are biased in favor off God of War III. However, those things are just opinions, and no matter how clear I think they may be, that doesn't change the fact that no one cares what I think, because they have their own opinions, and they don't need mine.

What they might need, is my reasoning and my deduction, and that is what I try to provide, only giving my opinions as a point of reference from which those deductions originate.

.......plus, you can't really watch "some" of The Godfather, and realize why it's a great film.

Your Definition defer from mine : A aaa game to me is a big game, one that drives consoles. RE5, COD, NSMB Wii, Halo are AAA games. They cost a lot and make a lot.  Quite simple stuff.

 



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jonnhytesta said:
bayonetta and dark cloud are way overrated. those game arent that good. (i know that dark cloud has nothing to do with this thread, but ive been wanting to say that for a long time. :)

Oh hell no, lol, don't bring DC into this. How can you not like....

OK....can't go off on a tangent here.....

hard...not...to...talk....about...dark....cloud....arggg!!!!!!!

Bayon....CLOUD....is...good....GAME!!!!!!!!

Bro, lol, you and I are two different people. D=



I don't need your console war.
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.

NO NO, NO NO NO.

psrock said:

Your Definition defer from mine : A aaa game to me is a big game, one that drives consoles. RE5, COD, NSMB Wii, Halo are AAA games. They cost a lot and make a lot.  Quite simple stuff.

 

Ah, good argument. That's pretty much the only thing you could have said to counter me, because the definition you just presented is the ONLY other COMMONLY HELD definition of a AAA game, and thus, I have been pwnd.

Good game sir.

That said, my definion is, in my opinion(since I have nothing but vast amounts of anecdotal evidence), at least a little more popular.



I don't need your console war.
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.

NO NO, NO NO NO.

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ZenfoldorVGI said:
psrock said:
 

Your Definition defer from mine : A aaa game to me is a big game, one that drives consoles. RE5, COD, NSMB Wii, Halo are AAA games. They cost a lot and make a lot.  Quite simple stuff.

 

Ah, good argument. That's pretty much the only thing you could have said to counter me, because the definition you just presented is the ONLY other COMMONLY HELD definition of a AAA game, and thus, I have been pwnd.

Good game sir.

That said, my definion is, in my opinion(since I have nothing but vast amounts of anecdotal evidence), at least a little more popular.

funny thing most AAA games end up with 90 on meta anyway, except for the Wii games.



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ZenfoldorVGI said:
jonnhytesta said:
bayonetta and dark cloud are way overrated. those game arent that good. (i know that dark cloud has nothing to do with this thread, but ive been wanting to say that for a long time. :)

Oh hell no, lol, don't bring DC into this. How can you not like....

OK....can't go off on a tangent here.....

hard...not...to...talk....about...dark....cloud....arggg!!!!!!!

Bayon....CLOUD....is...good....GAME!!!!!!!!

Bro, lol, you and I are two different people. D=

are you making fun of my english?



Ah, but wait, psrock.

OBJECTION!!!!!!!

How can you say that your original intent was to imply that big financial tentpole games are what you consider AAA games, when you clearly stated:

"I got a chance to play some Bayonetta on the 360. A lot of fun, almost too powerful, weird like. But one thing is clear, It's no AAA game."

By your definition, you don't need to play a game to know if it's AAA, the game doesn't even need to be released. It simply has to be guaranteed to sell a ton of copies, and have a high operating budget.

You would have known that Bayonetta was not a console driving game before it was even released, and thus you would have always known that the game wasn't AAA by your definition, and your comment about having played some of the game.......is....IRRELEVANT.

Queue up the Phoenix Wright music boys, I just resurrected my case!



I don't need your console war.
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.

NO NO, NO NO NO.

jonnhytesta said:
ZenfoldorVGI said:
jonnhytesta said:
bayonetta and dark cloud are way overrated. those game arent that good. (i know that dark cloud has nothing to do with this thread, but ive been wanting to say that for a long time. :)

Oh hell no, lol, don't bring DC into this. How can you not like....

OK....can't go off on a tangent here.....

hard...not...to...talk....about...dark....cloud....arggg!!!!!!!

Bayon....CLOUD....is...good....GAME!!!!!!!!

Bro, lol, you and I are two different people. D=

are you making fun of my english?

LMAO....no, lol, I didn't eve know used English as a second language....

I just about had a stroke though, when I read your post, so I had to indicate that somehow, and thus, the "having a stroke" punctuation.



I don't need your console war.
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.

NO NO, NO NO NO.

I'd give Bayonetta a 9 (the 360 version) and it's as good as any other so-called triple A title ...and I always preferred the ps2 Devil May Cry (the first of which was made by the same dude who made Bayonetta) games to GOW 1 and 2. So to me it aint THAT absurd or inconceivable that GOW 3 should get a lower score than BAYONETTA, whether gow looks visually better or not...and anyways...a 7- 8 from edge is actually equal to 9 or 10 from any other publication so what's the problem???

Does everybody have to cry like a biatch everytime edge doesn't give their favourite game a 10?
Fuck I'd have to be on antidepressants if that were the case!