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the gamecube was so much better. And third parties have made good games for the wii, its just that if a third party game on the wii isn't a party game for 5 year olds, it most likely won't sell well with very few exceptions.
Gamecube defenitly had the better nintendo games. The only exception to that would be Mario Galaxy but Mario sunshine was such a good game as well. Sometimes the water tube did feel a bit tacked on, but overall it defenitly was a true sequal to mario 64. Its not like you played the game in a different perspective.



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I think the Gamecube was better in its day against its competition than the Wii is today. Sales, however, are in stark contrast to my opinion.



O-D-C said:
I like the Gamecube better

so far...

Ditto.



The Wii owes a lot to the successes of the previous generation. Several of the top rated Wii games were ported from GC or PS2: Twilight Princess, Metroid Prime Trilogy, Resident Evil 4, Okami, and Super Paper Mario to name a few. Of course, Wii remote functionality was tacked onto those titles to make them a better fit to the system.

I like the Wii but it's clear that the early naysayers who called the hardware "Gamecube 1.5" were fairly accurate in this statement. That should have actually worked to the advantage of 3rd parties since many of them already had experience programming for GC. It makes the fact that they have not developed more AAA titles for Wii even more bewildering. Hopefully we'll see more top tier third party titles. Thankfully, Nintendo's exclusives make the system worth owning.

 

Edit: First party exclusives, that is.



archbrix said:
I think the Gamecube was better in its day against its competition than the Wii is today. Sales, however, are in stark contrast to my opinion.

Wait WHAT?! In what way. You mean in the way that Gamecube got little to nearly no 3rd party support? Oh You think I'm kidding? Remember Capcom 5? Yeah Capcom promised Nintendo fans 5 exclusive games for Gamecube fans. What did we get. Resident Evil 4. Yup Gamecubes arguably best game that was exclusive for a year then went to the PS2. OH wait. It doesn't end there. Gamecube also got screwed over by Namco. How you ask?! Soul Calibur 2 best sold on the Nintendo Gamecube, then they took the third game and made it exclusively for the PS2 now thats bullshit. It doesn't end their. RARE. What happended. Nintendo practically owned you and how many games did you make for the Gamecube? One. Thats it. Just one game. The Nintendo sold them to Microsoft for $370 million. Wow. Just wow.  The Gamecube is better know for its first party support. Mario had every kind of sports game you can think of for it. Now when you talk about Wii vs the competition, Wii is actually doing better than Gamecube is. Both the HD consoles fight against each other for HD games, then the Wii melts in perfectly with both of them offering different games, thus gamers nowadays owning a PS3 + Wii or 360 + Wii or just a Wii. Wii has 3rd party support. 2010 shows it. This year looks to be a great year for the Wii. Metacritic, if you ask me isn't the best source for comparing consoles. Its more like a summary of oppinions (mostly biased nowadays.)

 

Wii > Gamecube



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theARTIST0017 said:
archbrix said:
I think the Gamecube was better in its day against its competition than the Wii is today. Sales, however, are in stark contrast to my opinion.

Wait WHAT?! In what way. You mean in the way that Gamecube got little to nearly no 3rd party support? Oh You think I'm kidding? Remember Capcom 5? Yeah Capcom promised Nintendo fans 5 exclusive games for Gamecube fans. What did we get. Resident Evil 4. Yup Gamecubes arguably best game that was exclusive for a year then went to the PS2. OH wait. It doesn't end there. Gamecube also got screwed over by Namco. How you ask?! Soul Calibur 2 best sold on the Nintendo Gamecube, then they took the third game and made it exclusively for the PS2 now thats bullshit. It doesn't end their. RARE. What happended. Nintendo practically owned you and how many games did you make for the Gamecube? One. Thats it. Just one game. The Nintendo sold them to Microsoft for $370 million. Wow. Just wow.  The Gamecube is better know for its first party support. Mario had every kind of sports game you can think of for it. Now when you talk about Wii vs the competition, Wii is actually doing better than Gamecube is. Both the HD consoles fight against each other for HD games, then the Wii melts in perfectly with both of them offering different games, thus gamers nowadays owning a PS3 + Wii or 360 + Wii or just a Wii. Wii has 3rd party support. 2010 shows it. This year looks to be a great year for the Wii. Metacritic, if you ask me isn't the best source for comparing consoles. Its more like a summary of oppinions (mostly biased nowadays.)

 

Wii > Gamecube

Your Capcom Five argument is flawed...GameCube owners got:


Resident Evil 4 (jan 05)

P.N.03 (2003)

Viewtiful Joe (Nov 03)

killer7 (june 05)

dead phoenix (cancelled 2003)

 

Of these, only PN03 remained exclusive.

 

And I preferred GameCube's line-up to the Wii's.



theARTIST0017 said:
archbrix said:
I think the Gamecube was better in its day against its competition than the Wii is today. Sales, however, are in stark contrast to my opinion.

Wait WHAT?! In what way. You mean in the way that Gamecube got little to nearly no 3rd party support? Oh You think I'm kidding? Remember Capcom 5? Yeah Capcom promised Nintendo fans 5 exclusive games for Gamecube fans. What did we get. Resident Evil 4. Yup Gamecubes arguably best game that was exclusive for a year then went to the PS2. OH wait. It doesn't end there. Gamecube also got screwed over by Namco. How you ask?! Soul Calibur 2 best sold on the Nintendo Gamecube, then they took the third game and made it exclusively for the PS2 now thats bullshit. It doesn't end their. RARE. What happended. Nintendo practically owned you and how many games did you make for the Gamecube? One. Thats it. Just one game. The Nintendo sold them to Microsoft for $370 million. Wow. Just wow.  The Gamecube is better know for its first party support. Mario had every kind of sports game you can think of for it. Now when you talk about Wii vs the competition, Wii is actually doing better than Gamecube is. Both the HD consoles fight against each other for HD games, then the Wii melts in perfectly with both of them offering different games, thus gamers nowadays owning a PS3 + Wii or 360 + Wii or just a Wii. Wii has 3rd party support. 2010 shows it. This year looks to be a great year for the Wii. Metacritic, if you ask me isn't the best source for comparing consoles. Its more like a summary of oppinions (mostly biased nowadays.)

 

Wii > Gamecube

No, that's not what I meant; all of your points are well taken.  What I meant was my own opinion of how its games and system capabilites fared against competition.  The Gamecube had great tech for its day where as the Wii hardware is FAR behind the 360 and PS3.  The Gamecube is where Metorid Prime and RE4 were born.  True that the Wii has them both, but being the same games, they don't have the impact several years later on a current system as they had back in 2002 and 2005, respectively.

To me the Wii has only two games so far that I would say are worth buying the system for alone:  Twilight Princess and Galaxy (And the GC has the former too, although since they released at the same time I like the Wii version much better).  The Gamecube, however had Metroid Prime, RE4, Eternal Darkness, Wind Waker, the beautiful remake of Resident Evil, Rogue Leader, etc.  And lets not forget that it did receive many versions of third party games that were on PS2 and Xbox, such as Splinter Cell and Soul Calibur for example.  The Wii never receives cross-platform games that the other two systems have simply because the hardware just isn't on par.  Look at Resident Evil 5 and Street Fighter 4.  How about Call of Duty and Bioshock?  Batman:AA?  Final Fantasy 13?  See a pattern?  Pretty much everything that's a big 3rd party game always finds its way to 360 and PS3.  Instead Wii gets on-rails RE games and Final Fantasy hand-me-downs from 3rd partys, so I disagree with that point.

That's not to say I don't like the Wii, I do.  I LOVE the fact that Nintendo came out with something different and kicked Sony's and Microsoft's ass this generation, only to have them both scrambling to copy the trend that Nintendo created.  And there are plenty of good games on Wii; NSMB is great fun, MK Wii is FAR better than Double Dash, SSBB I like better than Melee, and games like Zack and Wiki are very unique AND only possible on Wii (until now, anyway).  SMG2, Metroid other M and the inevitable masterpiece that will be Wii Zelda are just as high on my anticipation list as God of War 3.

I'm definitely not saying that the Wii isn't doing as well for itself as Gamecube did, as I stated by pointing out Wii's incredible sales.  I'm just saying that, so far, it doesn't have as many excellent games, first or third party, as the 'cube did.  So far.

 



archbrix said:
theARTIST0017 said:
archbrix said:
I think the Gamecube was better in its day against its competition than the Wii is today. Sales, however, are in stark contrast to my opinion.

Wait WHAT?! In what way. You mean in the way that Gamecube got little to nearly no 3rd party support? Oh You think I'm kidding? Remember Capcom 5? Yeah Capcom promised Nintendo fans 5 exclusive games for Gamecube fans. What did we get. Resident Evil 4. Yup Gamecubes arguably best game that was exclusive for a year then went to the PS2. OH wait. It doesn't end there. Gamecube also got screwed over by Namco. How you ask?! Soul Calibur 2 best sold on the Nintendo Gamecube, then they took the third game and made it exclusively for the PS2 now thats bullshit. It doesn't end their. RARE. What happended. Nintendo practically owned you and how many games did you make for the Gamecube? One. Thats it. Just one game. The Nintendo sold them to Microsoft for $370 million. Wow. Just wow.  The Gamecube is better know for its first party support. Mario had every kind of sports game you can think of for it. Now when you talk about Wii vs the competition, Wii is actually doing better than Gamecube is. Both the HD consoles fight against each other for HD games, then the Wii melts in perfectly with both of them offering different games, thus gamers nowadays owning a PS3 + Wii or 360 + Wii or just a Wii. Wii has 3rd party support. 2010 shows it. This year looks to be a great year for the Wii. Metacritic, if you ask me isn't the best source for comparing consoles. Its more like a summary of oppinions (mostly biased nowadays.)

 

Wii > Gamecube

No, that's not what I meant; all of your points are well taken.  What I meant was my own opinion of how its games and system capabilites fared against competition.  The Gamecube had great tech for its day where as the Wii hardware is FAR behind the 360 and PS3.  The Gamecube is where Metorid Prime and RE4 were born.  True that the Wii has them both, but being the same games, they don't have the impact several years later on a current system as they had back in 2002 and 2005, respectively.

To me the Wii has only two games so far that I would say are worth buying the system for alone:  Twilight Princess and Galaxy (And the GC has the former too, although since they released at the same time I like the Wii version much better).  The Gamecube, however had Metroid Prime, RE4, Eternal Darkness, Wind Waker, the beautiful remake of Resident Evil, Rogue Leader, etc.  And lets not forget that it did receive many versions of third party games that were on PS2 and Xbox, such as Splinter Cell and Soul Calibur for example.  The Wii never receives cross-platform games that the other two systems have simply because the hardware just isn't on par.  Look at Resident Evil 5 and Street Fighter 4.  How about Call of Duty and Bioshock?  Batman:AA?  Final Fantasy 13?  See a pattern?  Pretty much everything that's a big 3rd party game always finds its way to 360 and PS3.  Instead Wii gets on-rails RE games and Final Fantasy hand-me-downs from 3rd partys, so I disagree with that point.

That's not to say I don't like the Wii, I do.  I LOVE the fact that Nintendo came out with something different and kicked Sony's and Microsoft's ass this generation, only to have them both scrambling to copy the trend that Nintendo created.  And there are plenty of good games on Wii; NSMB is great fun, MK Wii is FAR better than Double Dash, SSBB I like better than Melee, and games like Zack and Wiki are very unique AND only possible on Wii (until now, anyway).  SMG2, Metroid other M and the inevitable masterpiece that will be Wii Zelda are just as high on my anticipation list as God of War 3.

I'm definitely not saying that the Wii isn't doing as well for itself as Gamecube did, as I stated by pointing out Wii's incredible sales.  I'm just saying that, so far, it doesn't have as many excellent games, first or third party, as the 'cube did.  So far.

 

The wii has a lot more games that are worth buying. You are full of BS.  I own 18 wii games, 31 VC games, 9 wiiware. I also play 20 cube games on it. Gamecube sucks deal with it



Gamecube was Nintendo's worst home console. It had some gems, don't get me wrong, but iterations of Nintendo's own franchises weren't as good as their previous incarnations. Mario 64>Sunshine for example. Kart 64> DD and OoT better than WW (&TP). But it did give us Metroid Prime! So it was still a good console!



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mysticwolf said:
The Wii is awesome. You can't change my mind with your little "statistics"

This. I have enjoyed my first and third party games a lot more on Wii then I ever did my Gamecube.