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heruamon said:
Torillian said:
Lord Flashheart said:
the two post troll wasnt banned. Seems unfair to heruamon if you ask me.

that was the Streak's first offense, therefore he was given a warning.  Heruamon has been here and it wasn't his first offense, therefore it was a ban.  There is a system guys, just because you don't see someone get banned doesn't mean that nothing happened.

so, now troll is a bannable offense, to go along with fanboy, which btw, I still see in massive use...but amazingly, I don't see alot of bannings for...which I did check for, after my warning, btw.  I now know the ROE...green posters, just stfu, of get banned...no problems.

Insults and flaming. Attacking other users for any reason is never acceptable.

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  • In general try to treat other users with respect and courtesy. We understand debates get heated, but don’t lose yourself in them. Remember you can’t continue the debate if you’re banned, so be respectful of your fellow forum members.

Of course you still see it happening, if you don't report it there's a good chance we won't see it.  Our job is not to scour the site to find offenses, it is to deal with those offenses we see or are reported to us.

And on your "I now know the ROE...green posters, just stfu, of get banned...no problems." you can keep thinking that if you really want.  I am here trying to explain all of these bans and warnings so that you guys can understand the reasons for these decisions, but if all you want to do is cry and talk about how 360 users are persecuted no matter what explanations I give to the contrary then there really isn't a point.



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^^ Nope there isn't, I'll just shut my mouth and move along...Thanks for your help Torillian, as always, have a good day.



"...You can't kill ideas with a sword, and you can't sink belief structures with a broadside. You defeat them by making them change..."

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@Torillian: What about "false" reports? How do you handle that?



Truth does not fear investigation

NightAntilli said:
@Torillian: What about "false" reports? How do you handle that?

as in reports of things that shouldn't have been reported?  They get deleted with no action towards either the reporter or reportee.  I suppose if someone had a rash of reports that were obviously things that are not worth reporting then we would ask that person to reread the rules, but I don't recall ever having that issue.



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huaxiong90 said:

Read what Carmack said about the PS3 version.

 

That's nice. Read what Carmack says about the 360 and Rage 360

John Carmack interview with Wired re: PS3


"It's not a bad console; it's certainly far better than everything else
except maybe the Xbox 360
. In an ideal world PlayStation 3 will be more
powerful, but for the vast majority of the cases, you'll be able to
effectively exploit more power from the 360."

 Rage preview/interview

"The RSX is slower than what we have in the 360. The CPU is about the same, but the 360 makes it easier to split things off..."

Another interview

, "...the only thing Sony has going for them over the 360, is the data storage on the blu-ray..." And about a minute and a half later, just in case we didn't quite hear him correctly the first time, he said, "...the only real advantage that the PS3 has over the 360, from our point of view, is the extra space."

...

..."Yeah, I mean that's our position that it's almost unequivocal across the board that the 360 is a better platform to develop for. When you get down into actual comparisons on the hardware performance characteristics, it's not quite an apples to apples comparison. On almost anything on the strictly graphical side, in terms of pushing vertexes and triangles on there, the 360 hardware is superior to the PS3's RSX on there.

...


"On the processing side it's a little bit more complicated, where the main processor on the PS3 is roughly equivalent to one of the three processors on the 360. But then you wind up saying, you have to compare two other symmetric processors on the 360 versus the eight quirky cell processors. And that comes down to one of those questions, where if you just look at the raw numbers, the cells are much more powerful. Many more flops on there, in theory you can do a lot more, but that's where you come to the difference between theory and practice. And given an infinite amount of development time on there, you can craft a program that's gonna work more efficiently on the cells there than on two additional processors on the 360. But given a finite amount of development time, it's much-much easier to get things working well on the 360 than it is on the PS3. And that's pretty much the case across the board."

on blu-ray

"And if it winds up getting a benefit because of the blu-ray and having the better compression on there, then it's going to wind up looking like the PS3 was the better machine, even though it really wasn't.."

...

"The PS3 lags a little bit behind in terms of getting the performance out of it,"

 

Once again, Please explain why the scan is somehow more valid then the rest of his comments? Is it because one favours the PS3 and the rest favours the 360?




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RAZurrection said:
huaxiong90 said:

Read what Carmack said about the PS3 version.

 

That's nice. Read what Carmack says about the 360 and Rage 360

John Carmack interview with Wired re: PS3


"It's not a bad console; it's certainly far better than everything else
except maybe the Xbox 360
. In an ideal world PlayStation 3 will be more
powerful, but for the vast majority of the cases, you'll be able to
effectively exploit more power from the 360."

 Rage preview/interview

"The RSX is slower than what we have in the 360. The CPU is about the same, but the 360 makes it easier to split things off..."

Another interview

, "...the only thing Sony has going for them over the 360, is the data storage on the blu-ray..." And about a minute and a half later, just in case we didn't quite hear him correctly the first time, he said, "...the only real advantage that the PS3 has over the 360, from our point of view, is the extra space."

...

..."Yeah, I mean that's our position that it's almost unequivocal across the board that the 360 is a better platform to develop for. When you get down into actual comparisons on the hardware performance characteristics, it's not quite an apples to apples comparison. On almost anything on the strictly graphical side, in terms of pushing vertexes and triangles on there, the 360 hardware is superior to the PS3's RSX on there.

...


"On the processing side it's a little bit more complicated, where the main processor on the PS3 is roughly equivalent to one of the three processors on the 360. But then you wind up saying, you have to compare two other symmetric processors on the 360 versus the eight quirky cell processors. And that comes down to one of those questions, where if you just look at the raw numbers, the cells are much more powerful. Many more flops on there, in theory you can do a lot more, but that's where you come to the difference between theory and practice. And given an infinite amount of development time on there, you can craft a program that's gonna work more efficiently on the cells there than on two additional processors on the 360. But given a finite amount of development time, it's much-much easier to get things working well on the 360 than it is on the PS3. And that's pretty much the case across the board."

on blu-ray

"And if it winds up getting a benefit because of the blu-ray and having the better compression on there, then it's going to wind up looking like the PS3 was the better machine, even though it really wasn't.."

...

"The PS3 lags a little bit behind in terms of getting the performance out of it,"

 

Once again, Please explain why the scan is somehow more valid then the rest of his comments? Is it because one favours the PS3 and the rest favours the 360?


 

OUCH!!!!  That was cold!



ghaleon1980 said:
RAZurrection said:
huaxiong90 said:

Read what Carmack said about the PS3 version.

 

That's nice. Read what Carmack says about the 360 and Rage 360

John Carmack interview with Wired re: PS3


"It's not a bad console; it's certainly far better than everything else
except maybe the Xbox 360
. In an ideal world PlayStation 3 will be more
powerful, but for the vast majority of the cases, you'll be able to
effectively exploit more power from the 360."

 Rage preview/interview

"The RSX is slower than what we have in the 360. The CPU is about the same, but the 360 makes it easier to split things off..."

Another interview

, "...the only thing Sony has going for them over the 360, is the data storage on the blu-ray..." And about a minute and a half later, just in case we didn't quite hear him correctly the first time, he said, "...the only real advantage that the PS3 has over the 360, from our point of view, is the extra space."

...

..."Yeah, I mean that's our position that it's almost unequivocal across the board that the 360 is a better platform to develop for. When you get down into actual comparisons on the hardware performance characteristics, it's not quite an apples to apples comparison. On almost anything on the strictly graphical side, in terms of pushing vertexes and triangles on there, the 360 hardware is superior to the PS3's RSX on there.

...


"On the processing side it's a little bit more complicated, where the main processor on the PS3 is roughly equivalent to one of the three processors on the 360. But then you wind up saying, you have to compare two other symmetric processors on the 360 versus the eight quirky cell processors. And that comes down to one of those questions, where if you just look at the raw numbers, the cells are much more powerful. Many more flops on there, in theory you can do a lot more, but that's where you come to the difference between theory and practice. And given an infinite amount of development time on there, you can craft a program that's gonna work more efficiently on the cells there than on two additional processors on the 360. But given a finite amount of development time, it's much-much easier to get things working well on the 360 than it is on the PS3. And that's pretty much the case across the board."

on blu-ray

"And if it winds up getting a benefit because of the blu-ray and having the better compression on there, then it's going to wind up looking like the PS3 was the better machine, even though it really wasn't.."

...

"The PS3 lags a little bit behind in terms of getting the performance out of it,"

 

Once again, Please explain why the scan is somehow more valid then the rest of his comments? Is it because one favours the PS3 and the rest favours the 360?


 

OUCH!!!!  That was cold!

ONCE AGAIN:

CARMACK:

FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE!

IE:

"from our perspective," the speaker is acknowledging that others may see things differently, or may completely disagree. "Not a bad fix" isn't as good as "a good fix," and adding "short-term" is a further caveat. By making a weaker, heavier, more redundant sentence, the speaker makes a weaker statement of support. It's deliberate.

GET THAT!

IT'S FROM THEIR PERSPECTIVE:

IE: not every developer will agree with HIM get that through your skull

you are beating a d@mn dead horse

get over it already




I AM BOLO

100% lover "nothing else matter's" after that...

ps:

Proud psOne/2/3/p owner.  I survived Aplcalyps3 and all I got was this lousy Signature.

an people wonder why some fans of the xbox360 get their post's slam!
god it's like talking to shaved monkey, that just want's to keep flinging crap at someone because they can
this is getting rather silly.



I AM BOLO

100% lover "nothing else matter's" after that...

ps:

Proud psOne/2/3/p owner.  I survived Aplcalyps3 and all I got was this lousy Signature.

@joeorc: Yeah I bet if the tables would've been turned you would be arguing how right he is and that his perspective is the truth.



Truth does not fear investigation

400+ posts in a thread about why 360 threads get negativity. Isnt that ironic. Might be because you start shit like this, super-quoting anything that puts the 360 ahead of anything. And the history of both RAZ and Selnor speaks for itself. So no wonder you get shit thrown your way.