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RolStoppable said:
Demotruk, I am not too sure about this. We've already seen the PSP selling much better than any projections based on software trends suggested. Who's to say that the PS3 can't achieve something similar? (Not implying that the PS3 could sell more than 100m, but that it could go beyond the at this time reasonably optimistic estimates that have it at around 70-75m.)

PSP serves purposes other than playing legitimately bought games. Piracy is a reason to buy a PSP as was video/music etc., while it was much cheaper than an iphone/ipod touch etc. Not so much these days though.

 

PS3 doesn't have an equivalent alternative function. Yes, it's a bluray player, but there are much cheaper bluray players out there. It has some other functionality, but most is better done by a laptop or something else. PS3 is forced to sell on the games, which aren't so appealing beyond the core audience shared by Microsoft. Arc could change that in theory, but colour me skeptical that Sony first party or third parties are going to turn Arc into the new Wii (for a number of reasons I'm sure you already appreciate).



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well, unless wii continues to sell for a 10 year period in major countries, he's right.



Hmmm



theprof00 said:
well, unless wii continues to sell for a 10 year period in major countries, he's right.

Not if neither does.



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Demotruk said:
theprof00 said:
well, unless wii continues to sell for a 10 year period in major countries, he's right.

Not if neither does.

well yeah, obviously.



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RolStoppable said:
@Demotruk

Makes sense. But one factor that makes growth for the PS3 possible is third party support. Historically support for losing systems would decrease drastically from the fourth year onwards. Less new releases resulted in less interested buyers, but that's not going to be the case this gen, hence we'll see sales trends that don't match previous generations.

True. But that should imply a sales pattern *like* a leading console but with smaller numbers. The norm is to peak on the third full year, which is exactly what the PS3 has done unless it somehow peaks this year or next. Both PS3 and 360 should have a good tail after they peak, PS3 moreso due to being perceived as the higher value console, because they fill a purpose that the Wii does not.

None of that implies we should see continual growth until the fifth year or beyond.



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Hus said:
Viper1 said:
I don't get the HDTV point. Are you telling me that there are millions of people waiting to get an HDTV BEFORE they buy a PS3? Seriously, I'm trying to find the logic in it. Who are these people not buying the console they want until AFTER they buy a new TV?

People that will buy them selfs a BR player and their kids a video game system, once you have a hdtv PS3 is a great buy for everyone.

 

So again why in the world are they waiting to get an HDTV before they buy a PS3?  It's not like you need an HDTV for the PS3 to work.

Hus said:
Are all you forgetting Nin openly said they are working on their next hardware.

You do know that the day after they launch a console that they begin work on the next console, don't you?

And that goes for all 3 of them.   You think all their engineers and design people take a 2-3 year vacation?

 



The rEVOLution is not being televised

Gilgamesh said:

I suppose it can happen, it's not impossible.

2006: 1.2 million

2007: 7.6 million

2008: 9.6 million

2009: 12.7 million

2010: 15 million

2011: 17 million

2012: 15 million

2013: 12 million

2014: 10 million

2015: 8 million

2016: 5 million

Total: 113 million, seems somewhat reasonable, we'll likely see the PS3 at $199 or less in 2011. Along with big exclusives and constant updates, new features, and peripherals it should keep selling at a good constant pace.

As for the Wii, the only reason it'd stop selling at 103 million, is either a new console (HD) in order to try to steal some 3rd party devs from X360 and PS3. Or it'll actually slow down and sell worst and worst from now on, by the looks of it the Wii may have already peaked.

Based on what you prjected, PS3 needs an extra 2 mil per year in order to meet the projection from SACHD. Highly unlikely...



MikeB predicts that the PS3 will sell about 140 million units by the end of 2016 and triple the amount of 360s in the long run.

Demotruk said:
RolStoppable said:
@Demotruk

Makes sense. But one factor that makes growth for the PS3 possible is third party support. Historically support for losing systems would decrease drastically from the fourth year onwards. Less new releases resulted in less interested buyers, but that's not going to be the case this gen, hence we'll see sales trends that don't match previous generations.

True. But that should imply a sales pattern *like* a leading console but with smaller numbers. The norm is to peak on the third full year, which is exactly what the PS3 has done unless it somehow peaks this year or next. Both PS3 and 360 should have a good tail after they peak, PS3 moreso due to being perceived as the higher value console, because they fill a purpose that the Wii does not.

None of that implies we should see continual growth until the fifth year or beyond.

"one unless it somehow peaks this year or next."

Ps3 is already up nearly 30%

VGChartz Hardware data for the period 04th Jan 2009 to 28th Feb 2009:

 

Console PS3
Total
1,255,521

VGChartz Hardware data for the period 03rd Jan 2010 to 27th Feb 2010:

 

Console PS3
Total
1,669,912

or were you talking about full years from launch?

Because starting last November, ps3 is in it's fourth year. And already up like 100%



Wii was up this time last year too.

PS3 should be up for the first half of the year, but I think it'll start making losses at the end of the year as MS steals some thunder and they face a tougher comparison with a stronger latter half of last year.



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www.xnagg.com/zombieasteroids/publish.htm

It is largely a technical exercise but feedback is appreciated.