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themanwithnoname on 10 March 2010
Boutros said:
themanwithnoname said:
You completely missed his point Boutros. His point in a nutshell, is that this is a pretty meaningless achievement. For lack of a better analogy, if this were a football (soccer) game, Alice would be up by a goal at halftime, but Avatar would have twice or three times as many goals when it's all said and done.

About a year from now, you and probably Tim Burton will be the only people who remember this, think it's significant, or actually care about it.

At least, that's what I think Montana's main argument is.

No I understood that.

That's not the problem.


Ehh ok, you guys have been arguing in circles for awhile now, and I guess I don't know why either.



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Boutros on 10 March 2010
themanwithnoname said:
Boutros said:
themanwithnoname said:
You completely missed his point Boutros. His point in a nutshell, is that this is a pretty meaningless achievement. For lack of a better analogy, if this were a football (soccer) game, Alice would be up by a goal at halftime, but Avatar would have twice or three times as many goals when it's all said and done.

About a year from now, you and probably Tim Burton will be the only people who remember this, think it's significant, or actually care about it.

At least, that's what I think Montana's main argument is.

No I understood that.

That's not the problem.


Ehh ok, you guys have been arguing in circles for awhile now, and I guess I don't know why either.

lol

I know!

I'm going to sleep now ahah



CatFangs806 on 11 March 2010
Boutros said:
CatFangs806 said:

It wouldn't have been as bad if you didn't put Avatar in the title. Yes, Alice had a great opening weekend, but Avatar had legs. This won't. I haven't seen it yet, but the reviews are less then positive, average at best, and I heard the 3D wasn't anything inventive, like in Avatar. It's just stuff flying at you.

EDIT: Alice had more hype than Avatar, but Alice is more frontloaded, therefore will drop like a dead bat at the box office very soon. Avatar stayed at #1 domestically for seven weekends in a row. Let's see if Alice can do that.

What do you mean it wouldn't have been as bad?

By putting Avatar in the title, you make this opening weekend sound like a huge achievment and that the movie has more impressive box office numbers than Avatar. And we all know this isn't even going to make half of Avatar's worldwide total gross.



FaRmLaNd on 11 March 2010

Irrelevant.

Avatar was a new ip, with smaller actors in the lead.

Alice wont have avatars legs and it wont beat the dark knight.



MontanaHatchet on 12 March 2010

Gee, I don't even want to look at this thread anymore. The argument is immense.

Boutros, sorry if I acted overly aggressive, rude and/or offensive in this thread. I was just trying to defend Avatar (a movie that I liked) when I thought its monetary achievements were being harped on. I thought you could have celebrated Alice in Wonderland's wonderful achievement without bringing another movie into this. Again, my apologies if I brought you any unhappiness. And if you're wondering why I sound different, it's because I'm drunk. I'm a sincere drunk. Accept my apology please.



 

 

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leo-j on 12 March 2010
FaRmLaNd said:
Irrelevant.

Avatar was a new ip, with smaller actors in the lead.

Alice wont have avatars legs and it wont beat the dark knight.

Sigourney Weaver is one of the biggest actresses in the world..

 

she was also one of the main characters

 



 

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FaRmLaNd on 12 March 2010

And?

Depp is far bigger these days. Plus Helena Bonham Carter, Anne Hathaway, Alan Rickman, Stephen Fry and others. The draw of the cast in Alice in Wonderland is collectively bigger.

But that wasn't my main point, my main point was that Alice in wonderland is a bankable widely known narrative. Avatar wasn't. Yes avatar was a HUGE hit, but its smaller first week can be attributed in many ways to the fact that it wasn't a known property.



weaveworld on 12 March 2010

Yup but that doesnt make the movie any better...



Barozi on 12 March 2010

First time I heard of this movie (speaking of the 2010 version of course)



TaichungSteve on 12 March 2010

Just came back from watching it. Went to see it in 2D. Can't see any frame in the film that would have looked better in 3D. The movie was beautiful, wonderfully shot and framed. I think 3D would definitely detract from this movie. Tim Burton is an animator and a cartoonist; the way he composes his shots, your eyes are meant to dance around the frame. That can't be properly done in 3D without inducing a serious headache.
That being said, the film itself was ok, not great, but was an absolute treat to look at; which is basically what can be said for most of his movies, save his two or three best.