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HKN on 07 March 2010

Wasn't ODST heavily packed in?



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ocean-1984 on 07 March 2010
toastboy44562 said:
GodOfWar_3ever said:
Campaign length is directly proportional to sales ? :/


sure, i think theres a lot of people like me that didnt get ODST because it was too damn short. plus there are lots of people renting it because they can beat it right away/borrowing it etc

Or maybe they didnt get ODST because they have multiplayer maps already.



Enlightment on 07 March 2010

Add a bit of dragonbreath, a pinch of vampire tears, a flask of virgin scream and voila...there is the answer.

What matters is quality, playability, original and unique maps and stuff.
The added extra hours doesn't compute in extra buyers. Leave that to the illusionists



31 million PS3's by end of this year

 

De85 on 07 March 2010
Cross-X said:
I would like to share my view on Halo Reach's sales in comparison to Halo 3.

I believe it cannot outsell Halo 3. The best it can do actually have equal sales as Halo 3. I believe this not because it has a series to compete to called COD. Not because Halo 3 is the peak sales for the Halo series and certainly not because Halo series is in a decline.

Halo Reach is a prequel right? But prequel or not, it's gonna do at least 4.5 mil+ Week 1. There are people who will buy this coz it's a Halo title and most people will buy coz by the time Halo Reach is out, people will know that Reach takes the Halo series to a new level in terms of gameplay and graphics. But the fact that it's a prequel and not a sequel will prevent it outdoing Halo 3. How many prequel games have you seen outsell a sequel game? This brings me to my next point.

I reckon install base has got nothing to do with this. So you claim that the install base has increased since 2007. Well if it's increased, those who love Halo would've at least bought Halo 3 along with their X360 right? Hence overtime Halo 3 has managed to reach 10 mil sales. What I don't understand is how people who aren't interested in Halo would buy Halo Reach? If people didn't buy Halo 3 or ODST, Why should they buy Reach? That's not gonna happen. And then let's assume that people who weren't interested in Halo 3 buy Reach. Since it's a prequel, wouldn't you think people who want to buy Halo 3 and maybe ODST after since it's cheap now? So that's 1 more copy of Halo 3 sold for every Reach copy sold to new people and hence Reach cannot outsell Halo 3.

And that is why the best Reach can do is equal the sales of Halo 3.

Of course we really cannot find out who's right or wrong until at least next year but that is what I believe on this matter.

For the same reason that people who did not buy Halo: CE bought Halo 2, and the same reason that people who did not buy Halo 2 bought Halo 3...



Cross-X on 07 March 2010
De85 said:
Cross-X said:
I would like to share my view on Halo Reach's sales in comparison to Halo 3.

I believe it cannot outsell Halo 3. The best it can do actually have equal sales as Halo 3. I believe this not because it has a series to compete to called COD. Not because Halo 3 is the peak sales for the Halo series and certainly not because Halo series is in a decline.

Halo Reach is a prequel right? But prequel or not, it's gonna do at least 4.5 mil+ Week 1. There are people who will buy this coz it's a Halo title and most people will buy coz by the time Halo Reach is out, people will know that Reach takes the Halo series to a new level in terms of gameplay and graphics. But the fact that it's a prequel and not a sequel will prevent it outdoing Halo 3. How many prequel games have you seen outsell a sequel game? This brings me to my next point.

I reckon install base has got nothing to do with this. So you claim that the install base has increased since 2007. Well if it's increased, those who love Halo would've at least bought Halo 3 along with their X360 right? Hence overtime Halo 3 has managed to reach 10 mil sales. What I don't understand is how people who aren't interested in Halo would buy Halo Reach? If people didn't buy Halo 3 or ODST, Why should they buy Reach? That's not gonna happen. And then let's assume that people who weren't interested in Halo 3 buy Reach. Since it's a prequel, wouldn't you think people who want to buy Halo 3 and maybe ODST after since it's cheap now? So that's 1 more copy of Halo 3 sold for every Reach copy sold to new people and hence Reach cannot outsell Halo 3.

And that is why the best Reach can do is equal the sales of Halo 3.

Of course we really cannot find out who's right or wrong until at least next year but that is what I believe on this matter.

For the same reason that people who did not buy Halo: CE bought Halo 2, and the same reason that people who did not buy Halo 2 bought Halo 3...

Ok then what's gonna stop people who didn't buy neither Halo 3 or ODST and buy Reach from buying Halo 3 in the future?



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Vertigo-X on 07 March 2010
Cross-X said:
De85 said:

For the same reason that people who did not buy Halo: CE bought Halo 2, and the same reason that people who did not buy Halo 2 bought Halo 3...

Ok then what's gonna stop people who didn't buy neither Halo 3 or ODST and buy Reach from buying Halo 3 in the future?

You're like that annoying kid who always asks "Why? Why? Why?"



The BuShA owns all!

IN-TE-LL-ECT-UAL on 07 March 2010

Halo 3 sold alot but imagine if it came out when CoD4 came out. Vietnam might not be great but its still CoD and November is looking packed. I say 9 million lifetime. The fanbase has decline alot since Halo has so many haters.



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Cross-X on 07 March 2010
Vertigo-X said:
Cross-X said:
De85 said:
 

For the same reason that people who did not buy Halo: CE bought Halo 2, and the same reason that people who did not buy Halo 2 bought Halo 3...

Ok then what's gonna stop people who didn't buy neither Halo 3 or ODST and buy Reach from buying Halo 3 in the future?

You're like that annoying kid who always asks "Why? Why? Why?"

lolz I need explanations :D



Hoops84 on 07 March 2010

After I read this I thoguht it must be a joke. "do the math people" what you said and the reasons you gave were PURE speculation and were NOT directly related to anything. Purely just bogus ideas and random thoughts that are backed up by nothing. I really hope you're either 12 years old, or joking. Length of campaign is in NO way "directly" related to sales. You throw out random sales numbers by saying, "well this one sold 2.5 million so I assume Reach will sell 3.5 million!" of ccourse that is a made up number but you get my point. How can you just make up random stuff liekt hat and expect that it is true? I really do not understand your logic or "math" at all. I don't think any human beinng with a brain would. Stop wasting our time kiddo. gg. Oh and don't even get me started on your "predictions tag" that in itself gave me a good laugh.



De85 on 07 March 2010
Cross-X said:
Vertigo-X said:
Cross-X said:
De85 said:
 

For the same reason that people who did not buy Halo: CE bought Halo 2, and the same reason that people who did not buy Halo 2 bought Halo 3...

Ok then what's gonna stop people who didn't buy neither Halo 3 or ODST and buy Reach from buying Halo 3 in the future?

You're like that annoying kid who always asks "Why? Why? Why?"

lolz I need explanations :D

I can't say exactly, but it will probably be something similar to whatever prevented the extra people who bought Halo 2 from going back and buying Halo: CE, or whatever prevented the extra people who bought Halo 3 from going back and buying Halo 2.  Just think about the sales history of the series, it would not be unprecedented for Reach to outsell Halo 3.