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letsdance on 27 February 2010
JerCotter7 said:
Twistedpixel said:
huaxiong90 said:
Twistedpixel said:

Sony has to prove to people who haven't got a PS3 that its worth the price. Superior exclusives huh? So perhaps two of the biggest landmark shooter games in existance, Half-Life 2 which is probably still better than every single shooter Sony has released and they have to wait in line? You sound a little bit less care free about this than you're trying to appear.

Just thought I'd add he probably isn't referring strictly to shooters.

Sony only releases shooters. The PS3 is a shooter box. Look at the number of Sony published shooters!

  • Uncharted
  • Uncharted 2
  • Resistance Fall of Man
  • RFOM 2
  • R+C ACIT
  • R+C TOD
  • R+C Q4B
  • Killzone 2
  • Infamous

How can you say they have a lot of exclusives without guns?

LBP has a paint ball gun.


Damn... Sony is just a generic first party dev... and GoW has bos and arrows. Fucking shooters



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huaxiong90 on 27 February 2010
Twistedpixel said:
huaxiong90 said:
Twistedpixel said:

Sony has to prove to people who haven't got a PS3 that its worth the price. Superior exclusives huh? So perhaps two of the biggest landmark shooter games in existance, Half-Life 2 which is probably still better than every single shooter Sony has released and they have to wait in line? You sound a little bit less care free about this than you're trying to appear.

Just thought I'd add he probably isn't referring strictly to shooters.

Sony only releases shooters. The PS3 is a shooter box. Look at the number of Sony published shooters!

  • Uncharted
  • Uncharted 2
  • Resistance Fall of Man
  • RFOM 2
  • R+C ACIT
  • R+C TOD
  • R+C Q4B
  • Killzone 2
  • Infamous

How can you say they have a lot of exclusives without guns?

...ok, seeing how you interpreted it as a generalization, let me rephrase: First person shooters. Besides, LBP, Demon's Souls, Heavy Rain, Heavenly Sword, amongst others are different.

 

And with that, I'm off to bed. It's late.



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Jordahn on 27 February 2010

Twistedpixel, you have constantly shown your lack of respect for SONY's console. Now, the 3rd party developer who has most vocally bashed the PS3 (Valve) has now publicly come out to admit that they should have done better on the PS3 and will now try harder. PS3/SONY haters don't even have Valve's words to back up their banter anymore. But you know what it says in Proverbs something along the lines of "Don't argue with a fool. He'll only attack back. But when you correct a wise man, he'll listen and thank you for looking out for him." All you're doing is arguing back because a 3rd party developer who normally favors your console of choice is now seeing the errors of its ways for whatever reasons who once bashed the console you looked down upon. Not wise in the slightest. Go figure.



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Twistedpixel on 27 February 2010
huaxiong90 said:
Twistedpixel said:
huaxiong90 said:
Twistedpixel said:

Sony has to prove to people who haven't got a PS3 that its worth the price. Superior exclusives huh? So perhaps two of the biggest landmark shooter games in existance, Half-Life 2 which is probably still better than every single shooter Sony has released and they have to wait in line? You sound a little bit less care free about this than you're trying to appear.

Just thought I'd add he probably isn't referring strictly to shooters.

Sony only releases shooters. The PS3 is a shooter box. Look at the number of Sony published shooters!

  • Uncharted
  • Uncharted 2
  • Resistance Fall of Man
  • RFOM 2
  • R+C ACIT
  • R+C TOD
  • R+C Q4B
  • Killzone 2
  • Infamous
  • LBP (has a paint ball gun)
  • Demons Souls (Arrows are like guns but more primitive)
  • Heavy Rain has a gun too
  • Heavenly Swords had after touch and it looked like a gun too, Twing Twang!
  • Untold Legends: Dark Kingdom has a wizard, and thats like a magical gun.

How can you say they have a lot of exclusives without guns?

...ok, seeing how you interpreted it as a generalization, let me rephrase: First person shooters. Besides, LBP, Demon's Souls, Heavy Rain, Heavenly Sword, amongst others are different.

 

And with that, I'm off to bed. It's late.

So now you're trying to redefine things to suit you?! Since when did camera position define a games genre?



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Twistedpixel on 27 February 2010
letsdance said:
JerCotter7 said:

LBP has a paint ball gun.


Damn... Sony is just a generic first party dev... and GoW has bos and arrows. Fucking shooters

Its unfortunate. Until Half Life Episode 3 comes to the PS3 there will have been no epic innovative software released. Just rehashes of shooter.



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Torillian on 27 February 2010
Twistedpixel said:
huaxiong90 said:
Twistedpixel said:

Sony has to prove to people who haven't got a PS3 that its worth the price. Superior exclusives huh? So perhaps two of the biggest landmark shooter games in existance, Half-Life 2 which is probably still better than every single shooter Sony has released and they have to wait in line? You sound a little bit less care free about this than you're trying to appear.

Just thought I'd add he probably isn't referring strictly to shooters.

Sony only releases shooters. The PS3 is a shooter box. Look at the number of Sony published shooters!

  • Uncharted
  • Uncharted 2
  • Resistance Fall of Man
  • RFOM 2
  • R+C ACIT
  • R+C TOD
  • R+C Q4B
  • Killzone 2
  • Infamous
  • LBP (has a paint ball gun)

How can you say they have a lot of exclusives without guns?

Watch this:

MLB 09: The Show

Gran Turismo 5 Prologue

Hot Shots Golf 5

SingStar Vol 2

LittleBigPlanet

MotorStorm: Pacific Rift

Heavy Rain

EyePet

Heavenly Sword

Folklore

and that's without even posting multiple games from the same series like someone did.  How can you say "Sony only releases shooters."?



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Twistedpixel on 27 February 2010

I was only kidding. Infamous doesn't have guns. Uncharted 2 is an adventure game, LBP is a side scroller with a paintball gun addon.



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letsdance on 27 February 2010

did the green name scare you? Because you sure the hell changed your tone real quick.



Torillian on 27 February 2010
letsdance said:
did the green name scare you? Because you sure the hell changed your tone real quick.

Please don't try to bring this back to being a flamewar.  Let it continue as a reasonable discussion or I'll just lock the thing to save me the headache.



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Jordahn on 27 February 2010
huaxiong90 said:
Twistedpixel said:
huaxiong90 said:
Twistedpixel said:

Sony has to prove to people who haven't got a PS3 that its worth the price. Superior exclusives huh? So perhaps two of the biggest landmark shooter games in existance, Half-Life 2 which is probably still better than every single shooter Sony has released and they have to wait in line? You sound a little bit less care free about this than you're trying to appear.

Just thought I'd add he probably isn't referring strictly to shooters.

Sony only releases shooters. The PS3 is a shooter box. Look at the number of Sony published shooters!

  • Uncharted
  • Uncharted 2
  • Resistance Fall of Man
  • RFOM 2
  • R+C ACIT
  • R+C TOD
  • R+C Q4B
  • Killzone 2
  • Infamous

How can you say they have a lot of exclusives without guns?

...ok, seeing how you interpreted it as a generalization, let me rephrase: First person shooters. Besides, LBP, Demon's Souls, Heavy Rain, Heavenly Sword, amongst others are different.

 

And with that, I'm off to bed. It's late.

Well, maybe I should continue while using some of your examples:

MLB the Show 2010

MLB the Show 2009

MLB the Show 2008

MLB the Show 2007

Heavy Rain

White Knight Chronicles

God of War Collection

SingStar

SingStar Vol. 2

SingStar Queen

SingStar ABBA

Flower

Elefunk

Siren Blood Curse

PixelJunk Eden

WipeoutHD

Linger in Shadows

Motorstorm

Motorstorm Pacific Rift

Little Big Planet

Rag Doll Kung Fu

EchoChrome

Gran Turismo 5 Prologue

Hot Shots Golf Out of Bounds

High Velocity Bowling

Eye of Judgment 

Genji: Days of the Blade

Untold Legends Dark Kingdom

Go Sudoku

Flow

Formula One Championship 

Heavenly Sword

Super Rub a Dub

Folklore

PixleJunk Racer

LocoRoco Cocoreccho

All of the above games are published by SONY.  All games have no shooting or shooting is a secondary mean of gameplay to where its genre classification will not be a shooter of some sort.  This is not counting the many other 3rd party multi-platform and exclusives made for the PS3 that are not classified as shooters such as Demon's Souls, Disgaea, Ninja Gaiden Sigma, and Valkyria Chronicles.  This list also does not include upcoming non-shooter releases such as God of War III and Gran Turismo 5 published by SONY.



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