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cerdsmania said:
to tell you all my opinion the wii may sell 80 miliion units but not to hardcore gamers who keep consoles going. if u look at what the wii is selling most it is wii play and wii sports. okay but compare to xbox360 which is selling crackdown lost planet,gears of war and so. those games are for serious gamers not just the non-gamer. the ps3 on the other hand it top sellers are resistance:fall of man, motor storm, and virtua fighter 5. these are real games. as in theyre games meant to be played not wii sports or wii play or even raymond raving rabbids. these arent games you enjoy. and personally when u buy a hdtv u already have the money so many people just buy a ps3 or 360 to go with it. and if i made any grammar mistakes please excuse me cuz my spelling sucks.

Shouldn't you compare M$'s X-box 360 launch games against Nintendo's Wii launch games, not second generation games for the system (360), if you are comparing the game sales. ;)

 

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The biggest problem with comparing the PS2 launches and the Wii launches is that the Wii launched in all 3 regions within a span of 2.5 weeks, whereas the PS2 scattered them out among many months. (wasn't about 4 months between NA and Japan, then another 4 months later for Europe?)



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If Killzone 2 is anything like the E3 2005 trailer. CGI or not. It will own any Wii game ever created


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makes lots of sense. I don't care too much about this because i have all three nex gen consoles, therefore, i am a winner!



 

The number of posts in this thread are exceptionally high.



a.l.e.x59 said:
The number of posts in this thread are exceptionally high.

 maybe because there's posts like this one?



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The Wii doesn't break like the PS1 and PS2 did so that's another chunk out of sales considering the sheer number of Wii owners who won't have to buy a new Wii.

The Wii may also only experience a 7 year lifespan while the PS1 enjoyed an 11 year lifespan and the PS2 allegedly will have a 14 year lifespan.



As much as price is a factor, at the same time, it's not if the software and appearance of the system are less than satisfactory. A good example is the N64/GC versus the Saturn, PS1, PS2, and Xbox. The GC launched at $200 versus the PS2's $300 and the Xbox's $300 and ended up in last place. The N64 launched at $200 versus the PS1's $300 and Saturns $300 and ended up 2nd place. Now, there's never been as big of a gap (in the fact that the prem 360 sells the bulk of the systems @ $400), but again, it's an advantage, yet not the primary reason the Wii sells out. The big issue is the fact that Nintendo HAS to sell the Wii at a significant profit to stay afloat. The PS3/360 does not (although they have to at some point). The GC is still around $100 (where I live, mind you), while the PS2 is $129. 2 years from now, the Wii could easily be going @ $150 or less. But at the same time, it'd be just as easy for a core 360 to be @ the same price. Remember, a $100 price drop on the 360 core (which actually happened in December thanks to $100 gift cards) puts it at $200: $50 less than a Wii. I'm not saying that Nintendo would allow a 360 Core to be cheaper in the US or Europe than a Wii, but it's do-able by MS if they wanted to.

We arent taking into account the fact that the human population has also increased significantly. We have a lot more people now than we did 10 years ago which will obviously translate to more console sales in general even if nothing else changes. Add to that the fact that customer demographics has changed. They have changed so much that looking at prior sales may no longer have much power anymore. In 2007, almost anyone can be a gamer regardless of age and sex whereas back in 1997 you could pretty much generalize gamers as young males. So we have more people, and a larger gamer demographic but more competition with 5 active consoles + PC's. The potential for 100m sales is definitly there, but it all comes down to how the competition reacts and I doubt they will just let Nintendo stomp all over them without a fight even if it costs them. Dont forget how deep MS & Sony's pockets are. Taking a loss one generation will not kick them out of the market and the profit can be made up next generation.