Is there room for another WWII FPS?

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Slimebeast on 21 February 2010

Munkeh111 said:

Slimebeast said:

Winters said:

As much as I love first person shooters, especially WW2, I just feel that we have played every battle there is to play. Call of Duty, Medal of Honor, Brothers in Arms, Battlefield 1942 and the other 100 that I could not be bothered to list. Many of us have at least played 2 or 3 different games which feature the same towns, same places, pretty forests and the like. With Modern Warfare 2, Battlefield Bad Comany 2, Ghost Recon 2 as well Crysis 2 shifting battle onto the "Digital Battlefield", I personally feel that I would not go back and buy another WWII FPS set in Europe though a would not mind a change of scenry, lets say Korea. CoD WaW tried a new angle, yet it felt too recycled.

Does anyone agree with me here?

How did World at War try a new angle? I've only played half of it, but I saw nothing new whatsoever. It was extremely generic.

That said I love WW2. The latest Wolfenstein was awesome and I can't wait to play more shooters set in that era.

Pacific and Russian campaign

A Russian campaign is not new in CoD though. At least CoD 2 had a Russian campaign.

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Munkeh111 on 21 February 2010

Slimebeast said:

Munkeh111 said:

Slimebeast said:

Winters said:

As much as I love first person shooters, especially WW2, I just feel that we have played every battle there is to play. Call of Duty, Medal of Honor, Brothers in Arms, Battlefield 1942 and the other 100 that I could not be bothered to list. Many of us have at least played 2 or 3 different games which feature the same towns, same places, pretty forests and the like. With Modern Warfare 2, Battlefield Bad Comany 2, Ghost Recon 2 as well Crysis 2 shifting battle onto the "Digital Battlefield", I personally feel that I would not go back and buy another WWII FPS set in Europe though a would not mind a change of scenry, lets say Korea. CoD WaW tried a new angle, yet it felt too recycled.

Does anyone agree with me here?

How did World at War try a new angle? I've only played half of it, but I saw nothing new whatsoever. It was extremely generic.

That said I love WW2. The latest Wolfenstein was awesome and I can't wait to play more shooters set in that era.

Pacific and Russian campaign

A Russian campaign is not new in CoD though. At least CoD 2 had a Russian campaign.

Slightly newer...

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Slimebeast on 21 February 2010

Munkeh111 said:

Slimebeast said:

Munkeh111 said:

Slimebeast said:

Winters said:

As much as I love first person shooters, especially WW2, I just feel that we have played every battle there is to play. Call of Duty, Medal of Honor, Brothers in Arms, Battlefield 1942 and the other 100 that I could not be bothered to list. Many of us have at least played 2 or 3 different games which feature the same towns, same places, pretty forests and the like. With Modern Warfare 2, Battlefield Bad Comany 2, Ghost Recon 2 as well Crysis 2 shifting battle onto the "Digital Battlefield", I personally feel that I would not go back and buy another WWII FPS set in Europe though a would not mind a change of scenry, lets say Korea. CoD WaW tried a new angle, yet it felt too recycled.

Does anyone agree with me here?

How did World at War try a new angle? I've only played half of it, but I saw nothing new whatsoever. It was extremely generic.

That said I love WW2. The latest Wolfenstein was awesome and I can't wait to play more shooters set in that era.

Pacific and Russian campaign

A Russian campaign is not new in CoD though. At least CoD 2 had a Russian campaign.

Slightly newer...

What do you mean?

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Munkeh111 on 21 February 2010

Slimebeast said:

Munkeh111 said:

Slimebeast said:

Munkeh111 said:

Slimebeast said:

Winters said:

As much as I love first person shooters, especially WW2, I just feel that we have played every battle there is to play. Call of Duty, Medal of Honor, Brothers in Arms, Battlefield 1942 and the other 100 that I could not be bothered to list. Many of us have at least played 2 or 3 different games which feature the same towns, same places, pretty forests and the like. With Modern Warfare 2, Battlefield Bad Comany 2, Ghost Recon 2 as well Crysis 2 shifting battle onto the "Digital Battlefield", I personally feel that I would not go back and buy another WWII FPS set in Europe though a would not mind a change of scenry, lets say Korea. CoD WaW tried a new angle, yet it felt too recycled.

Does anyone agree with me here?

How did World at War try a new angle? I've only played half of it, but I saw nothing new whatsoever. It was extremely generic.

That said I love WW2. The latest Wolfenstein was awesome and I can't wait to play more shooters set in that era.

Pacific and Russian campaign

A Russian campaign is not new in CoD though. At least CoD 2 had a Russian campaign.

Slightly newer...

What do you mean?

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ffirebrand_cloud on 21 February 2010

Munkeh111 said:

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Well I personally think that there are craploads of areas to be explored of WWII. However, developers will never get to them becuase americans wont buy a game in which they play as a soviet or german soldier, because of their stupid prejudices.

I mean, Stalingrad, Kursk, Finland, Italy, the japanese invasion of China...

There are craploads of unexplored scenarios that could really be cool if approached inteligently.

For example, I just shudder to think of a game that would accurately represent the battle of Kursk or Moscow.

Instead, you just get to play as American soldiers, that didn't even participate in any of the major battles of WWII.

But they are still quite samey, and most of Stalingrad was just constant bombardment and incredibly brutal fighting. We have done Russian battles in WaW and have fought in the Pacific. I think we have seen enough for WW II for now

Umm not at all. The fighting in France( the setting of most WWII games) was nothing compared to Kursk in scale. To put things into perspective, more german soldiers died in that single battle, than in all of the western front fighting. More soviet soldiers died in that battle than Allied+ German casualties of the western front.

I mean with the power of the PC, PS3 and 360, you could just try to replicate the scale of Kursk, having hundreds of AI's at the same time, and lost of vehicles too. That, in my opinion, would be far great than MW's campaign for example.

As for Stalingrad, developers could twist a little the formula and add free exploration over a huge portion of the city. You could command your squad, accept missions, etc. that would be quite a nice expirience I must say.

The problem with WWII games isn't the much exploited setting, it's just that pretty much all developers have had the same approach in their games. With creativity, backed by good programmers and historical investigation, WWII games could arise anew.