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Forums - Sales Discussion - Borderlands sells 3 million

Foamer said:
dobby985 said:
Do the PC sales include downloads?

If the figures are just 'shipped to stores', then presumably not.

They're sold... which I would assume means DD and shipped



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Barozi said:
Foamer said:

Using the figures off here it breaks down as-

 

360- 1.48 million

PS3- 0.54 million

PC- ~1 million

more like:

 

360 - 1.48m

PS3 - 0.54m

PC   ~ 0.6m

 

EDIT:

Just saw this news and our numbers back then were around:

360 - 1.1m

PS3 - 0.4m

 

so my estimated PC sales are pretty much in line with the real sales.

Your PC estimate was much better tha Foamer's lol but I doubt even 600k copies were sold for PC. More like 300k, maybe 400.



Barozi said:
Foamer said:
400,000 on shelves though? Seems a bit excessive.

for 3 versions ?

that's about 130k each. I don't think that is excessive.

It is excessive when at this stage almost all sales of the game on consoles is already made, while on PC it is still going to sell alot considering the nature of PC games.

Also, there isn't excess when it comes to digital sales, which most of PC Borderlands' sales on PC should be. My guess if PC should be atleast 800k, which tells me it has great chance of outselling the Xbox 360 version.



shio said:
Barozi said:
Foamer said:
400,000 on shelves though? Seems a bit excessive.

for 3 versions ?

that's about 130k each. I don't think that is excessive.

It is excessive when at this stage almost all sales of the game on consoles is already made, while on PC it is still going to sell alot considering the nature of PC games.

Also, there isn't excess when it comes to digital sales, which most of PC Borderlands' sales on PC should be. My guess if PC should be atleast 800k, which tells me it has great chance of outselling the Xbox 360 version.

I doubt it will sell more than 2 million copies on the PC lol

That's about as much as Battlefield 2 sold in its lifetime....



Slimebeast said:

Your PC estimate was much better tha Foamer's lol but I doubt even 600k copies were sold for PC. More like 300k, maybe 400.

Based on what? That would mean there are 600-700,000 copies sitting on shop shelves and in warehouses.

If we're just making figures up, then how about-

PS3 and 360 sold = 2.02 million (figures from here)

PS3 and 360 copies remaining = 0.26 million (if we're considering that 130,000 copies for each platform isn't an excessive amount to be unsold)

PC copies remaining on shelves = 0.05 million (given that PC retail is fairly minimal)

Total = 2.33 million, leaving PC sales at around 670,000.



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Foamer said:
Slimebeast said:

Your PC estimate was much better tha Foamer's lol but I doubt even 600k copies were sold for PC. More like 300k, maybe 400.

Based on what? That would mean there are 600-700,000 copies sitting on shop shelves and in warehouses.

If we're just making figures up, then how about-

PS3 and 360 sold = 2.02 million (figures from here)

PS3 and 360 copies remaining = 0.26 million (if we're considering that 130,000 copies for each platform isn't an excessive amount to be unsold)

PC copies remaining on shelves = 0.05 million (given that PC retail is fairly minimal)

Total = 2.33 million, leaving PC sales at around 670,000.

Your thinking wrong. You simply can't derive the PC sales like that. It's simply impossible for the PC version of this type of game to outsell any console version.

So either you got many copies sitting on shelves - 6-700 K in total (let's say 300K for X360, 200K for PS3 and 100K for PC).

Or the 3 million number is rounded up from 2.8 million, so in actual there's only 500K on shelves.



Foamer said:
Slimebeast said:

Your PC estimate was much better tha Foamer's lol but I doubt even 600k copies were sold for PC. More like 300k, maybe 400.

 

PC copies remaining on shelves = 0.05 million (given that PC retail is fairly minimal)

Total = 2.33 million, leaving PC sales at around 670,000.

I know you just threw that number out, but that proportion between actual sold copies and sitting on shelves is just insanity.

No way there's 670K sold through and only 50K sitting on shelves, when this is the typical game that you'll see in the bargain bins in a few months.

There's a lot of games out there that don't even sell half of the initial shipment in months. Those games end up in the bargain bin.



It's simply impossible for the PC version of this type of game to outsell any console version.


I give up. It seems making stuff up and pulling figures out your ass is the preferred method of 'debate' on here.



Barozi said:
shio said:
Barozi said:
Foamer said:
400,000 on shelves though? Seems a bit excessive.

for 3 versions ?

that's about 130k each. I don't think that is excessive.

It is excessive when at this stage almost all sales of the game on consoles is already made, while on PC it is still going to sell alot considering the nature of PC games.

Also, there isn't excess when it comes to digital sales, which most of PC Borderlands' sales on PC should be. My guess if PC should be atleast 800k, which tells me it has great chance of outselling the Xbox 360 version.

I doubt it will sell more than 2 million copies on the PC lol

That's about as much as Battlefield 2 sold in its lifetime....

PC games now sell more than they have ever sold. PC games keep selling for years, and I'm impressed that Borderlands sold this much without even dropping price on digital services. I can see Borderlands reach 2 millions yes.

Such is the nature of PC games. They just keep selling for a long time, especially if they're good games. For example, Sins of a Solar Empire sold only 200k in it's first month, reached 500k 7 months after launch, and now 2 years later should be now walking up to 1 million.



Slimebeast said:
Foamer said:
Slimebeast said:

Your PC estimate was much better tha Foamer's lol but I doubt even 600k copies were sold for PC. More like 300k, maybe 400.

Based on what? That would mean there are 600-700,000 copies sitting on shop shelves and in warehouses.

If we're just making figures up, then how about-

PS3 and 360 sold = 2.02 million (figures from here)

PS3 and 360 copies remaining = 0.26 million (if we're considering that 130,000 copies for each platform isn't an excessive amount to be unsold)

PC copies remaining on shelves = 0.05 million (given that PC retail is fairly minimal)

Total = 2.33 million, leaving PC sales at around 670,000.

Your thinking wrong. You simply can't derive the PC sales like that. It's simply impossible for the PC version of this type of game to outsell any console version.

So either you got many copies sitting on shelves - 6-700 K in total (let's say 300K for X360, 200K for PS3 and 100K for PC).

Or the 3 million number is rounded up from 2.8 million, so in actual there's only 500K on shelves.

Foamer is being conservative in my opinion, and you are just being bias.

NO WAY that there's 500k sitting on shelves when only 120k copies of Borderlands PS360 were sold in the last 4 weeks. That is BAD business.

I think the PC version is over 800k by now, and should eventually outsell the the Xbox 360 version.