The point wasn't (really) about Virtua Fighter or Everybody's golf ... The point was Tetsuo Shima was being a raving fanboy who was unwilling to look at the facts from a rational perspective, so I choose two games from his platform of choice which have performed far worse than Mario Galaxy (in comparison to previous iterations).

Mario Galaxy will remain in the top 50 chart for months in Japan and may end up passing Super Mario Sunshine in lifetime sales if people buy it when they become interested in other Wii games. We haven't seen much of this with the Wii (yet) but the DS, Gameboy Advance and Gamecube always had games (like Mario) which ended up appearing in the top 10 months after release because a popular game was released for these platforms; the release of Wii Fit, Super Smash Bros. and Mario Kart could (in theory) end up boosting sales of Mario Galaxy by quite a large margin.

Can we all agree that the Japanese console market as it stands in Nov. 2007 is seriously wacked, and just leave it at that?

I mean, good freakin god, what are all of you "OMGZ SOPER MARIO GALZAIY IZ DOOMD N JAPN" guys trying to prove? Your own obtuseness and thickheadedness in not being able to see that the Japanese console market is wildly divergent from the rest of the world these days?

If so, then congratulations.

first day, first week whatever.  It's looking at 30-40k LTD right now.  Compare that to 220k for the worst selling R&C on a console in Japan and over 500k for the best selling one.  These games aren't cheaper to make on PS3 you know.

Mario galaxy a bit behind sunshine, but it's not that far.  You can add Virtua Fighter, My Summer Holiday, Minna no golf, and Gundam Musou to that list.  It's apparent games aren't selling as well on consoles this gen as they did the previous ones.  PS3 has had more dissapointing sales and they need to sell more to make a profit.

There's no way 250k will break even.  I'm sure their break even point is well north of 500k copies sold.

Maybe it can be, if Sony gives them a little money as a present for letting them bundle the PS3 with the game this holiday season.

That should happen with other games in the future, since I don't see why third parties would risk putting exclusives on the PS3 without getting some money from Sony...

Wow , are we parting away from vgc ... anyways , thats not bombing , R&C will probably reach the million later on worldwide , and thats not bad seeing that there are less than 6 million PS3s out there :)