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milkyjoe on 17 February 2010
Carl2291 said:

My opinion.

1. Why create the market on Wii, when they have a big enough market with PS360. If Nintendo really want the "hardcore" games, Nintendo will make the market themselves and stop advertising the Wii the way they do (Family all around, kids playing, everyone smiling and joyful). When Nintendo make "hardcore" games like Uncharted, Halo, God of War, Fable... The developers will follow suit, and likely gain big sales.

The reason Wii is lumped with all the "casual" trash, is solely because of how Nintendo have marketted the console.

2. Nintendo are always releasing remakes, and dozens of sequels. Yet you think they are the best Videogames company ever. Why don't you all complain to Nintendo for new stuff, instead of the 3rd parties? They are there to make money, and are doing the best way they can (casual games). Nintendo on the otherhand, have made mountains of cash, yet keep giving the same franchises. Why don't you hate on THEM for a change?

1. Would third parties have to create a market for hardcore games, and that is, create it from scratch? I don't think so. Nintendo have made a fair amount of hardcore games after all. Just one example would be having the best selling fighter of the generation, and there is no way in hell that a fighter is a casual game. And I know you didn't mean it like that, but the way you wrote that sounds like you're saying hardcore gamers never smile, they have no social interaction and have a joyless existence...

 

2. They get away with making games in the same franchises because they are good games. It's not like... I don't know, let's say Final Fantasy, where the quality is starting to drop after yet another game...



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Shiro_Legend on 17 February 2010

i cant talk for every ninty fan, but i can talk for myself

i dont care for hardcore games, i dont care for shooters, i dont care for gory games, and i really dont care for stupid minigames collections or retarded gimmicky petz games

i care for FUN GAMES!!!!!!!!!!

and most people thinks in the same way (i suposse)



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Xxain on 17 February 2010

WTF we havent had one of these in awhile...why bring this dead horse back from his grave to be beaten ( again)



theprof00 on 17 February 2010
WilliamWatts said:
I think Pachter may be right about this one. I think he stated the average sale price for 3rd party games were quite poor which explains why Microsofts Alan Greenburg has a big circle jerk with the NPD document as porn every month with the gaming media about overall $ value of third party purchases.

The Wii would have been better off had the performance been better in terms of third party support but worse for 1st party support. Things would not have been better overall with more powerful hardware because the only reason why Nintendo was able to hit the ground running was the fact the hardware was second nature to them and they could repurpose Gamecube engines/concepts and games in development.

are you aware that nintendo was making nearly 100$ on every wii when it came out?



GameAnalyser on 17 February 2010

Are the current sales for the platform enough and that too has been bringing profits for Nintendo. Actually we need to stop whining about the developers not supporting and continue to enjoy playing games.



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LordTheNightKnight on 17 February 2010
Xxain said:
WTF we havent had one of these in awhile...why bring this dead horse back from his grave to be beaten ( again)

The THQ CEO made jackass comments about the Wii audience. So they are bringing this topic up. We are just responding.



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Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs

elmerion on 17 February 2010
Shiro_Legend said:
i cant talk for every ninty fan, but i can talk for myself

i dont care for hardcore games, i dont care for shooters, i dont care for gory games, and i really dont care for stupid minigames collections or retarded gimmicky petz games

i care for FUN GAMES!!!!!!!!!!

and most people thinks in the same way (i suposse)

 

Amen

 

 



Nintendo is the best videogames company ever!

Carl on 17 February 2010
milkyjoe said:
Carl2291 said:

My opinion.

1. Why create the market on Wii, when they have a big enough market with PS360. If Nintendo really want the "hardcore" games, Nintendo will make the market themselves and stop advertising the Wii the way they do (Family all around, kids playing, everyone smiling and joyful). When Nintendo make "hardcore" games like Uncharted, Halo, God of War, Fable... The developers will follow suit, and likely gain big sales.

The reason Wii is lumped with all the "casual" trash, is solely because of how Nintendo have marketted the console.

2. Nintendo are always releasing remakes, and dozens of sequels. Yet you think they are the best Videogames company ever. Why don't you all complain to Nintendo for new stuff, instead of the 3rd parties? They are there to make money, and are doing the best way they can (casual games). Nintendo on the otherhand, have made mountains of cash, yet keep giving the same franchises. Why don't you hate on THEM for a change?

1. Would third parties have to create a market for hardcore games, and that is, create it from scratch? I don't think so. Nintendo have made a fair amount of hardcore games after all. Just one example would be having the best selling fighter of the generation, and there is no way in hell that a fighter is a casual game. And I know you didn't mean it like that, but the way you wrote that sounds like you're saying hardcore gamers never smile, they have no social interaction and have a joyless existence...

2. They get away with making games in the same franchises because they are good games. It's not like... I don't know, let's say Final Fantasy, where the quality is starting to drop after yet another game...

That's one game from Nintendo that has been advertised like it should have been IMO.

As for the red comment, i point you towards NSMB Wii. In other words, i could say the same thing about some of Nintendo's franchises.



                            

WilliamWatts on 17 February 2010
theprof00 said:
WilliamWatts said:
I think Pachter may be right about this one. I think he stated the average sale price for 3rd party games were quite poor which explains why Microsofts Alan Greenburg has a big circle jerk with the NPD document as porn every month with the gaming media about overall $ value of third party purchases.

The Wii would have been better off had the performance been better in terms of third party support but worse for 1st party support. Things would not have been better overall with more powerful hardware because the only reason why Nintendo was able to hit the ground running was the fact the hardware was second nature to them and they could repurpose Gamecube engines/concepts and games in development.

are you aware that nintendo was making nearly 100$ on every wii when it came out?

Im also aware it was meant to cost $200 on release and wasn't meant to come with Wii Sports.



LordTheNightKnight on 17 February 2010

"As for the red comment, i point you towards NSMB Wii."

We mean quality as a game, not critical quality.



A flashy-first game is awesome when it comes out. A great-first game is awesome forever.

Plus, just for the hell of it: Kelly Brook at the 2008 BAFTAs