Nighteyes_1981 said: Cryoakira said: 100 000 is good if true, but not exceptionnal given the install base. Given the install base?  How many X360 games have sold 100k on day one?  How many of those were rail shooters?  The install bases are very close right now.  If it's true, 100k on day one has to be the best opening for a rail shooter ever.

A lot, hopefully for the 360, though you're right, they were not rail shooters. But is the genre a criteria ? I mean, Rail shooter is incredbly popular in arcade, a sector that make a huge come back both in the US and in Japan. I don't know...

Basically, if 100k is huge for an install base of 3,79 millions (Wii in japan), what is 182k (Dynasty Warrior 6) for an install base of 1,35 millions (PS3 in japan) ? 

Or in the US, with 2,32 millions of PS3, what are CoD4 (179k) and GH3 (113k) ?

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it's not a good performance (if the figure is correct), especially after what some other games did in japan.

It's just that, by a strange phenomena (called non-players), we're now expecting from the Wii games, sales that are way under the usual potential of such a big install base.

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awesome, hopefully this will send a message to third parties
games that don't suck will sell on the wii.
anyway I'm picking up a copy of this game during toys' r us by 2 get 1 free sale,

maybe it's 10,000? I'd be surprised if UC even shipped 100,000 it's first week in Japan.

100k just sound too unlikely.
It's more believable it making 10k than 100k for day1 sales.

I will have to await for some confirmation. 100k seems awful high for RE:UC. If its true then great, but I will reserve judgement until at least Y-Koron comments on this.

The article is (SUPPOSEDLY) talking about Japan.

Isn't Japan a historically non-shooter demographic? I recall Metroid not doing as well in Japan, nor Halo of any kind. Or most shooters.


Japan is not the US when considering these types of statistics. I'd be more interested in the possibility of Japanese gamers appreciating a different style of play (rail shooters is certainly a different play-style than free-roam).

IF the article is right, and if anyone read it.

bdbdbd said: Cryoakira said: "Remember, it's a zapper game" Can be very well played w/o the zapper. "considering it hasn't been super hyped" you mean, after a dozens of video trailers, tons of articles/previews and such, not to mention we're talking about Resident Evil (RE4 did a million on the Wii)... 100 000 is good if true, but not exceptionnal given the install base.   Well, it can't, since "zapper" in this case means rail shooter. Considering the genre, the rumored sales were really good. I would have expected something between 30k to 50k max. RE4 did (have done) million on Wii (sold to retail), but not in Japan. In fact, this could outsell RE4 Wii edition WW by the end of the year. Although it have had a lot of trailers etc, it also have had a lot of anti-hype, mostly because of being shadowed by RE5. I would say UC is more like fan service for RE fans, not so much for people, who never have played a single RE. And about the "low" reviews, when have a rail shooter scored high? Anyway, it's better to wait for the offial numbers before saying anything more.

   No, no, no. bdbdbd, the light zapper, the gun Nintendo is releasing. RE:UC can be played with the zapper, yes, it's an option. But I still think just plain using the Wiimote will be best. I've highly enjoyed it so far.  I'm not too interested in the zapper at all. I am getting it next week though, simply because I want Link's Crossbow Training.  But, hey, maybe I'll like the zapper after all.

I don't think anybody is sure how well lightgun games do in Japan, mostly because there have been so few over the last few years. One of the reasons Umbrella Chronicles is (probably) doing so well is (probably) that it's the first proper game of the genre to hit the Wii, and I've heard lots of people say they'll buy the first lightgun game to come out. On top of that it looks like it's pretty decent (had 80+ on Metacritic before GameSpot...), and has huge fan service appeal to fans of the Resident Evil franchise.

I wouldn't call it a casual game though. Casual to me means a game is less about skill (ie. you don't have to learn how to play it) and accomplishment (ie. rarely a campaign that you beat), and more about being easy to access, fun in small amounts, and so forth. I guess anyone could pick this game up and know what to do (aim for the head!), but calling it casual feels very wrong to me.

Cryoakira said: Nighteyes_1981 said: Cryoakira said: 100 000 is good if true, but not exceptionnal given the install base. Given the install base?  How many X360 games have sold 100k on day one?  How many of those were rail shooters?  The install bases are very close right now.  If it's true, 100k on day one has to be the best opening for a rail shooter ever. A lot, hopefully for the 360, though you're right, they were not rail shooters. But is the genre a criteria ? I mean, Rail shooter is incredbly popular in arcade, a sector that make a huge come back both in the US and in Japan. I don't know... Basically, if 100k is huge for an install base of 3,79 millions (Wii in japan), what is 182k (Dynasty Warrior 6) for an install base of 1,35 millions (PS3 in japan) ?  Or in the US, with 2,32 millions of PS3, what are CoD4 (179k) and GH3 (113k) ? Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it's not a good performance (if the figure is correct), especially after what some other games did in japan. It's just that, by a strange phenomena (called non-players), we're now expecting from the Wii games, sales that are way under the usual potential of such a big install base.

GH3 and CoD4, are "the main series" games, unlike RE:UC, so they basically benefit from the name in a diffent way than RE:UC. Still, the sales numbers for the games you mentioned were good, but they expected to sell good. Nobody expected Umbrella Chronicles to sell 100k in a day. Although i agree, that Wii offers arcade-type experience for rail shooters, beats playing with pad. Anyway, RE:UC is a spinoff, which is generally considered as a cash-in (the anti-hype i mentioned), since Capcom don't make RE5 for Wii, and they need to have something else than just RE4 port. And besides, since SMG sold 130k at day one, who would have expected Resident Evil spinoff to sell nearly the same numbers. @Kasz: Ten thousand sounds as unbelievable number for a "Biohazard" game (even for a spinoff) as hundred thousand. 100k sounds like right number for shipped copies, but that wouldn't be news. Their purpose isn't ship the number sold at day one, more like the number sold first couple of weeks, or at least until Capcom gets to ship a new stock. Of course, it's possible that someone has mixed "shipped" and "sold" numbers, but if it's sold out at Amazon Japan, it's sold out at least there.