I would like to know where your getting your numbers, because were talking about what I studied in. In a type of product like video games, salary easily represant more than 1/2th of total exploitation cost. A building for 200 employees, electricity, insurance and 300 computers does not even represent 20 Million (take some time to think about the price of each thing), dont forget that you keep the building and computers to work on many many projects. Were not talking about construction here, where cost of materials easily surpasses cost of your employees. Though, I may be wrong with my evaluation of 50 K average earning since were talking of salaries in Japan, and sincerely I have no clues about the average salaries in Japan. Also do not forget that my evaluation is in line with what PD told the press about the development cost of GT5

most people in this thread are being complete babies about this.

the guy probably doesn't like the racing games other people make and probably never has. that's probably part of why he wanted to make a racing game of his own to begin with so that he could play a racing game that he does like.

Arrogant.

I wondered how long it would take him to retaliate. So much shit taken from Turn 10 the past few months... He had to break sometime.

Anyway, i need to continue being a Gran Turismo fanboy. So i stand by Kaz in his crusade against the evil of other games.

Definitive

I agree wiith Carl though, he did well to hold out this long and also not to single out Turn 10, that's some saving grace...ish.

When I first read it, I thought he meant it was the older GT games that isn't comparable to this newer GT5.

As some people say, it might be a mistranslation, until it's clariefied, we're gonna assume he meant otherwise.

While it will vary based on company, industry and location, the benefits (health-care, pensions/stock-options, etc.) can be equal to or greater than the employee’s salary; which is one of the reason’s why Auto-Workers have an average salary equivalent of $76 per hour even though few of them would take home (as salary) $40 per hour. There are also training costs, and travel costs, which can add up very quickly being that a single course or business trip can cost thousands of dollars per employee.

Beyond that you have support staff (people like HR, IT, reception, janitorial and security) who are necessary costs involved in doing business, but are rarely counted as a resource.

On top of this you have the fixed costs associated with desks, chairs, file-cabinets, phones, and software licensing which is all dramatically more expensive than people would expect because it is business rather than personal use; a good office char can cost $1000, and a good desk can be $2000, and you can spend $5000 on a 3D software package’s license.

And even office space itself is not that inexpensive being that it is typically leased rather than purchased/built (unless you’re a massive company with a significant cash position), the amount of space required is typically greater than you would initially expect due to shared spaces and walkways (100 to 150 square feet per employee), and most of the places companies want to do business are associated with healthy or hot commercial real estate markets.

I would highly question the quality of education you're receiving if they told you that the costs of doing business in any market were remotely close to the sum of your employees’ salary.

LOL, no more than you probably know that it is a good translation.

The point is, English is not his native language and that this interpretation "appears" no more conclusive than a Babel Fish translation.

Like I said, even if it was English like T10's comments are, we are then challenged with comments being out of context. T10 got cained by many on this forum for being arrogant when in most cases, they probably were not. In my opinion T10 were slightly arrogant but this opinion was based on many of their comments rather than just one that may have been out of context.

Carl2291 said: Arrogant. I wondered how long it would take him to retaliate. So much shit taken from Turn 10 the past few months... He had to break sometime. Anyway, i need to continue being a Gran Turismo fanboy. So i stand by Kaz in his crusade against the evil of other games. Definitive

Turn 10 last article was before F3 came out......so your telling me that even though they were taking shit 4 months ago and no shit has been said since , PD had to come out with the most disrespectful thing said in these articles 4 months later?

@ adjacent

They were not just targeting this article at T10......they basically said "we run this genre everything else is second rate"

jesus kung fu magic said: Carl2291 said: Arrogant. I wondered how long it would take him to retaliate. So much shit taken from Turn 10 the past few months... He had to break sometime. Anyway, i need to continue being a Gran Turismo fanboy. So i stand by Kaz in his crusade against the evil of other games. Definitive Turn 10 last article was before F3 came out......so your telling me that even though they were taking shit 4 months ago and no shit has been said since , PD had to come out with the most disrespectful thing said in these articles 4 months later?

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