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PC gaming is amazing! IMO its better than console gaming with a few exceptions



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Disagree; I have yet to find any reason that matters to me to Pick P.C. as my gaming platform. Do not get me wrong I love my P.C. for writing up papers and everything else. Just not games.



active patching to fix games or improve them (example Wow provides new content with their patches, not just fixes).
* better graphics (if you argue buy glasses... and a brain)
* compatibility with older games (not entirely true, but you do have access to most of the old games)
** support for new technologies (3D vision, infiniview)
** Cheaper games
*** versatility (you can work on your gaming comp...)
*** Controls (you prefer game pads then use one... you prefer M+K all the better, it's your choice and the PC has the best of all worlds in this section)
**** Mod community (exclusive content made by gamers for gamers and it's free)
*****PC's exclusives (all those RTS, 4X, flight sims... blizzard games =)



the only real bad point is cost

Game instals are now in consoles too... so are patches for bugs...
and I believe we can also thank consoles for the new paid DLC frenzy...

5 years ago I would not have tried a platformer on a PC... now.... well you can use a 360 controler so...



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Garnett said:
Mods are the ONLY reason to even consider PC gaming anymore.

Mods and open infrastructure vs controlled by a corporation (PSN/LIVE) are the two main reasons I still like PC gaming.

I'm perfectly fine with the general trend towards consoles for former PC stalwarts, but I don't like the infrastructure that puts MS or Sony in control nor the lack of mods and SDK for the community and can expand a games life and add value as well as giving talented people a chance to get noticed in the undustry.

I look at L4D 1&2 on 360 where you had to buy a 2 chapter bit of DLC that was free on PC, and where on PC you can access the SDK, build your own maps and download others plus additional mods that expand or add further fun to the game - and I don't like what I see implied by that trend.

Given PSN seems more open to developer choice than Live I'm also dissappinted this hasn't been exploited more (for example UT3 allowing mods/user developed maps for free, etc.) - I guess on console the majority either don't know the experiences that could be available, or just aren't interested.



Try to be reasonable... its easier than you think...

Reasonable said:
Garnett said:
Mods are the ONLY reason to even consider PC gaming anymore.

Mods and open infrastructure vs controlled by a corporation (PSN/LIVE) are the two main reasons I still like PC gaming.

I'm perfectly fine with the general trend towards consoles for former PC stalwarts, but I don't like the infrastructure that puts MS or Sony in control nor the lack of mods and SDK for the community and can expand a games life and add value as well as giving talented people a chance to get noticed in the undustry.

I look at L4D 1&2 on 360 where you had to buy a 2 chapter bit of DLC that was free on PC, and where on PC you can access the SDK, build your own maps and download others plus additional mods that expand or add further fun to the game - and I don't like what I see implied by that trend.

Given PSN seems more open to developer choice than Live I'm also dissappinted this hasn't been exploited more (for example UT3 allowing mods/user developed maps for free, etc.) - I guess on console the majority either don't know the experiences that could be available, or just aren't interested.

Which is sad because I've enjoyed playing games on both PC and consoles for many years while they continue to trash it.



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IllegalPaladin said:
Reasonable said:
Garnett said:
Mods are the ONLY reason to even consider PC gaming anymore.

Mods and open infrastructure vs controlled by a corporation (PSN/LIVE) are the two main reasons I still like PC gaming.

I'm perfectly fine with the general trend towards consoles for former PC stalwarts, but I don't like the infrastructure that puts MS or Sony in control nor the lack of mods and SDK for the community and can expand a games life and add value as well as giving talented people a chance to get noticed in the undustry.

I look at L4D 1&2 on 360 where you had to buy a 2 chapter bit of DLC that was free on PC, and where on PC you can access the SDK, build your own maps and download others plus additional mods that expand or add further fun to the game - and I don't like what I see implied by that trend.

Given PSN seems more open to developer choice than Live I'm also dissappinted this hasn't been exploited more (for example UT3 allowing mods/user developed maps for free, etc.) - I guess on console the majority either don't know the experiences that could be available, or just aren't interested.

Which is sad because I enjoy playing games on both PC and consoles for many years while they continue to trash it.

Agreed.  I'd love to know what the average 360 owner with no knowledge of PC gaming (as an example) would think if he saw my L4D install with all the great cusom campaigns I have plus a free DLC update with Crash Course for the same cost vs spending 800 points (or whatever it was) to get Crash Course and just the core campaigns.

I've got the same game with more than ten times the content and play value, and if Live allowed mods and SDK for users then they could have the same but by endorsing (unknowingly or otherwise) the closed culture of Live they lose out on all that potential.



Try to be reasonable... its easier than you think...

twesterm said:
tarheel91 said:
twesterm said:
tarheel91 said:
twesterm said:

Reason #5: Cheaper-- They show a picture of Diner Dash, Cubis 2, Solitaire, and other crap games. Those don't really count.

Reason #4 Controls-- Oh, I get it, satire!

Reason #3 Old games -- Oh wait, they're serious now?

Reason #2 Online WoW -- meh

Reason #1-- Satire again!

Yeah, I don't see myself embracing PC gaming any time soon.

You don't honestly think a normal console controller is better for a FPS or RTS do you?

Why yes I do actually (well not for RTS, but I haven't played an RTS in 7 or 8 years so I don't care so much).

In what regard?  I used to be a pure-console gamer myself until maybe 3 years ago.  I find console controllers both more difficult to use/less precise and less enjoyable.  Mouse + keyboard allows for much quicker movements, and the gameplay is changed for the better for me.  I didn't know anyone felt otherwise.  With the Wii, you might be able to make the argument that it's more enjoyable, but that's debatable at best, and there's no denying mouse + keyboard is king when it comes to performance.

Are you trying to tell me my opinion is wrong?

First, let me say no, I was simply asking in what regard you saw them as better.  I feel that mouse + keyboard is both better performance-wise and more enjoyable, so I was asking for you to explain your opinion.

 

Second, why the hell does everyone seem to think an opinion can't be wrong or can't be challenged?  Just because they're your personal thoughts or feelings on a matter doesn't make them automatically unassaillable.  If I said I think a Toyota Camry is a better car to drive around a track than a Ferrari FXX, that being my opinion doesn't change the fact that it's completely wrong.  The only time opinions really become difficult to argue about is when it comes to things completely subjective like enjoyment.  However, your response to controls, "Oh, I get it, satire!" suggests that there is a far more powerful reason why PC controls suck, and I want to know what it is.  Surely you can't completely dismiss a reason because you don't personally enjoy using mouse + keyboard when I'm sure you're aware everyone else feels very differently when it comes to certain genres.



twesterm said:

Reason #5: Cheaper-- They show a picture of Diner Dash, Cubis 2, Solitaire, and other crap games. Those don't really count.

I just counted, I bought 50 games over steam last year. It cost me just over 210€. Buying 4 console games would be more expensive over here, at least at retail price around release. You could also get around 15 cheap or used handheld games for that price.

Myself, I find PC gaming to be extremely cheap, in that regard. Sure, I also paid €700 to upgrade my PC to be able to play the latest games, but if I hadn't I wouldn't be able to type this. I wouldn't have had a computer at all then, and I desperately need one.

You can prefer console gaming all you want, I simply cannot afford it :(. I want to play Wii Sports Resort and Uncharted 2 as well. Instead I'll have to settle for Empire: Total War, Grid and Jade Empire.



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Not sure if anyone knows this. But PS3 supports mouse and keyboard for games. The only game I can think of that has used it so far is Unreal Tournament 3(or was it 4? so many of them).

My top 5 reasons.


1 better hardware.

2 scalable graphical settings.(I was playing WoW last night with my friend. She could see monsters at a further distance then I could, because she had 1/3rd the amount of plants as i did.

3 Mods. Mods are fun. I wish my PS3 games could get them.

4 Alt+Tab. Seriously, I sometimes need to look shit up on the internet. Much easier if all I need to do is alt tab.

5 Lastly, Higher resolutions if you want it. Makes things nice and crisp.

 

 

 

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6 Emulators!(completely legal if you already own the game/system and don't want to get it out of the attic!) I cant tell you how many times I have enjoyed old school genesis games on my PC.



It's all a matter of personal preference, really. You can't say PC gaming is 'better' than console gaming, because what is better totally depends on personal preferences.

Personally, I despise most gaming experiences on PC.



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