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Forums - Sales Discussion - Sony PS3 Supply To Be Tight Over Coming Months

thx1139 on 13 February 2010
drkohler said:
kowenicki said:
@drkohler

So you think that Sony main HQ in japn have no say in the distribution of its supplies? That they simply meet the demand of the regional HQ orders? No chance. There will be a distribution plan worked out in advance for each region. It will not be left up to region heads alone to decide that supply/demand, that would be too reactive and would make no business sense.

Huh? It is exactly as I wrote above (in several threads). Sony HQ and only Sony HQ has ALL THE SAY how it works. Every region head has to forecast its demands up in the food chain for every product, for every following business year . It is up to Sony HQ (the only place where the knowledge of manufacturing capacities resides) to cut/enhance/keep/kill/whatever manufacturing capacities  depending on the quantity of product all the regions order together.

For this fiscal year (ending March 31), Sony ordered manufacturing of 13mio PS3 units that will be distributed into the regions according to the final distribution order (determined before this fiscal year started). End of story as far as manufacturing PS3s is concerned for this fiscal year. If one region runs out of stock, tough luck. There is no way manufactured product for one region is going to be diverted into another region. (This is also the consequence of a crucial change done by Sony some years ago, when they switched from reporting shipped to reporting sold  - this "shipped vs sold" was actually a minor, unimportant point of the whole changes). You get what you paid for.

Now the question is open: Didi Sony (America) order enough product for the coming fiscal year starting April 1st (maybe)? If not, is it already too late for Sony HQ to intercept (possibly)? If Sony HQ intercepts and changes manufacturing capacities now, will there be a price penalty (absolutely certain)?

Yeah right.

You think that back in November and December SCEA couldnt get a good forecast what they would need in January-March?  Its not like they sold an outrageous amount in November and December that blew out projections.



Its libraries that sell systems not a single game.

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drkohler on 13 February 2010
thx1139 said:

Yeah right.

You think that back in November and December SCEA couldnt get a good forecast what they would need in January-March?

Again, in November and December, that ship had sailed a long time ago as far as manufacturing was concerned for the rest of the current fiscal year. The writing was on the (American) wall that they would very likely see shortages in January/March since they knew exactly the quantity of product they were going to receive for the final quarter. Again, all product for January/March was manufactured and allocated to the corresponding regions. Again for the third time, there was no possibility of redirecting excessive product from one region to another - the excessive product simply did not exist. End of story.



DaBuddahN on 13 February 2010

Oh dear, I love the damage control going on in here. It seems everyone who said "The PS3 is not having supply issues!!!" is here trying to convince people that Sony themselves are wrong about their own products supply issues. Give it a rest people. It has supply issues, period!

My take on this is that the underestimated the demand of the PS3 a bit, nothing more, nothing less.



DaBuddahN on 13 February 2010
kowenicki said:
DaBuddahN said:
Oh dear, I love the damage control going on in here. It seems everyone who said "The PS3 is not having supply issues!!!" is here trying to convince people that Sony themselves are wrong about their own products supply issues. Give it a rest people. It has supply issues, period!

My take on this is that the underestimated the demand of the PS3 a bit, nothing more, nothing less.


It has a small supply issue in one country, bucket loads everywhere else.

And even in the US, if you really want one you can find one. 

How is this incorrect?

I'm not saying it's not. But there are obviously supply issues in certain parts of America, and believe me, people are not going to travel 100 miles to buy a PS3 if their local stores do not have one. Here, where I live, GameStop only has refurbished PS3's available for sale (I have not checked Walmart, etc). And, it's mostly the 120GB model which is facing supply issues, because apparently the 250GB model can be found, it's just that people don't want to be the 50 dollar difference. 



DaBuddahN on 13 February 2010
kowenicki said:
DaBuddahN said:
kowenicki said:
DaBuddahN said:
Oh dear, I love the damage control going on in here. It seems everyone who said "The PS3 is not having supply issues!!!" is here trying to convince people that Sony themselves are wrong about their own products supply issues. Give it a rest people. It has supply issues, period!

My take on this is that the underestimated the demand of the PS3 a bit, nothing more, nothing less.


It has a small supply issue in one country, bucket loads everywhere else.

And even in the US, if you really want one you can find one. 

How is this incorrect?

I'm not saying it's not. But there are obviously supply issues in certain parts of America, and believe me, people are not going to travel 100 miles to buy a PS3 if their local stores do not have one. Here, where I live, GameStop only has refurbished PS3's available for sale (I have not checked Walmart, etc). And, it's mostly the 120GB model which is facing supply issues, because apparently the 250GB model can be found, it's just that people don't want to be the 50 dollar difference. 

online retailers...

Yes yes, but, there are people who don't like online retailers. =/ Believe it or not, there are people who don't even like email. 

The point is, Sony themselves they are having supply issues, and that they are struggling to keep up with demand. Now, if you know more than Sony about their own supply, please email them and point to the thousands of PS3's they have in storage that they have apparently forgotten. 



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leo-j on 13 February 2010

Kowenicki

the ps3 is out of stock EVERY WHERE in the U.S, those that really want it will not find it, stop trying to turn this around..

SONY are holding stock, or having issues supplying the PS3s for some reason, thats just it.



 

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DaBuddahN on 13 February 2010
kowenicki said:
DaBuddahN said:
kowenicki said:
DaBuddahN said:
kowenicki said:
DaBuddahN said:
Oh dear, I love the damage control going on in here. It seems everyone who said "The PS3 is not having supply issues!!!" is here trying to convince people that Sony themselves are wrong about their own products supply issues. Give it a rest people. It has supply issues, period!

My take on this is that the underestimated the demand of the PS3 a bit, nothing more, nothing less.


It has a small supply issue in one country, bucket loads everywhere else.

And even in the US, if you really want one you can find one. 

How is this incorrect?

I'm not saying it's not. But there are obviously supply issues in certain parts of America, and believe me, people are not going to travel 100 miles to buy a PS3 if their local stores do not have one. Here, where I live, GameStop only has refurbished PS3's available for sale (I have not checked Walmart, etc). And, it's mostly the 120GB model which is facing supply issues, because apparently the 250GB model can be found, it's just that people don't want to be the 50 dollar difference. 

online retailers...

Yes yes, but, there are people who don't like online retailers. =/ Believe it or not, there are people who don't even like email. 

The point is, Sony themselves they are having supply issues, and that they are struggling to keep up with demand. Now, if you know more than Sony about their own supply, please email them and point to the thousands of PS3's they have in storage that they have apparently forgotten. 

why so defensive

I am merely pointing out that if someone wants them then they can get one....

and do you really expect me to believe that the majority of new potetntial Sony PS3 customers dont like shopping online?  these are people that will be tech savvy and online.

I am not being defensive! I just don't like it when people try to spin things around. Sony themselves have said they are having supply issues, so it's to be assumed that there really is a supply issue.. And that all these anecdotal threads we've had over the past month or so might actually have ground to stand on. 

Yes, some of the people are tech savvy, for sure. But some are grandparents and parents whom are not tech savvy, buying gifts for children, etc.

Why are supplies low in the US? Maybe SCEA underestimated the demand for the PS3 in the US. That's my take on it. Why haven't they resupplied? That is another ball game entirely. Maybe some of the PS3's on the manufacturing line are defective? Or there is a component that is scarce for now. Only Sony knows... all we can do is speculate. But in the end, there is a supply issue, particularly in America. The End.



DaBuddahN on 13 February 2010
kowenicki said:
leo-j said:
Kowenicki

the ps3 is out of stock EVERY WHERE in the U.S, those that really want it will not find it, stop trying to turn this around..

SONY are holding stock, or having issues supplying the PS3s for some reason, thats just it.

holding stock!? lol.  why would they do that?  seriously...  you crack me up

isn't amazon.com and wal-mart.com in the US then?  and if it is out of stock everywhere how does it manage to sell tens of thousands every week... it isnt out of stock, it is in low supply... massive difference.

Thank you for finally agreeing with me.



drkohler on 13 February 2010
DaBuddahN said:

Why are supplies low in the US? Maybe SCEA underestimated the demand for the PS3 in the US. That's my take on it. Why haven't they resupplied? That is another ball game entirely.

In the past hours, I have explained the situation quite clearly three times. Read it and try to understand it, it is really no mystery at all and I still think what I wrote is understandable - but maybe not for everyone.



DaBuddahN on 13 February 2010
kowenicki said:
DaBuddahN said:
kowenicki said:
leo-j said:
Kowenicki

the ps3 is out of stock EVERY WHERE in the U.S, those that really want it will not find it, stop trying to turn this around..

SONY are holding stock, or having issues supplying the PS3s for some reason, thats just it.

holding stock!? lol.  why would they do that?  seriously...  you crack me up

isn't amazon.com and wal-mart.com in the US then?  and if it is out of stock everywhere how does it manage to sell tens of thousands every week... it isnt out of stock, it is in low supply... massive difference.

Thank you for finally agreeing with me.


no no... thank you for agreeing with me.... low supply means there is supplty and you can get one.

No no... Low supply means you have look harder to find one. People don't always have time to do that. I know I don't. Also, I never sad it was impossible to get one, just difficult. Thus, there are supply issues. How can you possibly not see what I am trying to say here?